viper 5900 remote start problem

Hi, having issues w/ a Viper 5900 remote start in my 2004 Grand Prix. The alarm, triggers, sensors, lights, etc, all work fine. The problem is the RS sequence. When I RS the vehicle the ignition & accessory come on but no power is sent to the starter wire, hence no crank. I know this b/c I tested the module starter wire while triggering the sequence. I know the wire is relay driven and it appears the relay is working properly. Does the module power the starter wire? I read in a previous post that the starter wire (pruple) is not need.

Can my bypass be stopping current from my alarm module?? I have a common ground for everything including the park/neutral as indictaed by DEI. My bypass module is a PKU-GM that I assume is correctly connected. I programed it as stated in the instructions and I can hear the relay turn on that powers it.

I did not hookup the starter disable so the starter wire was not cut leaving a key side and starter side. I only have the modules starter side wire connected. I spliced into the starter at the BCM, is this ok or should I try somewhere else?

I checked the obvious, fuses, connections, relays, good ground and power supply. I thought it may be one of the modules wires that need to see ground (like a park/neutral switch) or GWR wire triggering the bypass relay but those were checked and double checked and all seem to be working fine.

Any ideas would be appreciated seeing as my car looks like someone stole it and tore half the dash off currently. I refuse to reassemble and admit failure.

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Hi, having issues w/ a Viper 5900 remote start in my 2004 Grand Prix. The alarm, triggers, sensors, lights, etc, all work fine. The problem is the RS sequence. When I RS the vehicle the ignition & accessory come on but no power is sent to the starter wire, hence no crank. I know this b/c I tested the module starter wire while triggering the sequence. I know the wire is is working properly. Does the bypass module power the starter wire? I read in a previous post that the starter wire (purple) is not needed. Can my bypass be stopping current from my alarm module?? I have a common ground for everything including the park/neutral. My bypass module is a PKU-GM that I assume is correctly connected. I programed it as stated in the instructions and I can hear the relay turn on that powers it. I did not hookup the starter disable so the starter wire was not cut leaving a key side and starter side. I only have the modules starter side wire connected. I spliced into the starter at the BCM, is this ok or should I try somewhere else? I checked the obvious, fuses, connections, relays, good ground and power supply. I thought it may be one of the modules wires that need to see ground (like a park/neutral switch) or GWR wire triggering the bypass but those were checked and double checked and all seem to be working fine.Any ideas would be appreciated seeing as my car looks like someone stole it and tore half the dash off currently. I refuse to reassemble and admit failure.

Thanks

neutral safety needs to see ground or ground when in park.

You need to cut the starter wire and hook up the start kill. the unit sends power to the crank through these wires. check the install guide to be sure which direction the wires go. if i remember right the purple goues towards the starter and the green goes towards the key.

Ok but regardless of whether or not the starter wire is cut or the key side wire is used (green) in conjunction w/ the starter side (purple) I should still see the 5900 module spitting out a voltage on either the green or purple wires. I have nothing. They test dead when the RS sequence occurs. It's almost like the module does not want to send power to the starter.

My purple is hooked up. I didn't hook up the green (key side) b/c I didn't want the starter kill feature nor did I cut my BCM starter wire. There is really not point considering my car has an immobilizer. It would be overkill.

All my wires have one common ground. I am not sure if this is ok or not.

Ok, now I am dazed and confused. I have been using the wire chart below. It shows nothing of a 2nd ign wire. Do I need the speed sense wire? What is the anti-theft RX & TX. Are those needed to be hooked up to something. Is that chart above for a 2004 Grand Prix?

12volts      red (50A), red (40A) + back of fuse box, passenger dash

There are two pink wires in the BCM plug that meter as ignition. To verify that the correct wire is being energized for remote start, slide the key in the ignition key cylinder and then activate remote start. If the key in ignition warning chime comes on, then the correct wire is being energized.

If the service security lights comes on during remote start or after key takeover, see DirectFax document 1502.

The BCM (Body Control Module) is below the driver side dash to the left of the steering column.