the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
icon

2001 Sunfire Passlock 2 Bypass


Post ReplyPost New Topic
< Prev Topic Next Topic >
squallz 
Member - Posts: 42
Member spacespace
Joined: March 21, 2018
Posted: March 21, 2018 at 4:52 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote squallz
I went to a local shop and got a 2.2k ohm resistor and connected it and all and it didn't start. It kept going through the theft light flashing. I connected my scanner and it said "Wrong ignition cylinder data" so I reconnected everything right and the light went out, car started and all's fine now but I can't find the right resistor value anywhere online. I used a meter and it said 13.7k ohms resistance with the key in the on position. Can anyone help/confirm?
squallz 
Member - Posts: 42
Member spacespace
Joined: March 21, 2018
Posted: March 21, 2018 at 4:52 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote squallz
I'm doing this so my car doesn't instantly shut down after starting with my remote start.
kreg357 
Platinum - Posts: 7,827
Platinum spaceThis member has made a donation to the12volt.com. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Electrical Theory. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Security and Convenience. Click here for more info.spacespace
Joined: January 30, 2009
Location: Pennsylvania, United States
Posted: March 22, 2018 at 6:28 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
The actual resistor value for the Passlock2 system is not the same value for each vehicle. It is similar
to the older VATS system, which had 16 different resistor values. Not sure how many different values were
used with Passlock2. Personally, for Passlock2 vehicles, I use the iDatalink ADS TBSL-PL bypass module.
It handles the Passlock2 bypass function via DATA through the J1850 wire at the OBD2 port. Very easy
installation, very easy programming and very reliable for a remote start application.
That being said, if you wanted to do the more direct, old style bypass with relays and a resistor, you should
review this Directed Tech Tip. It steps you through how to accurately measure the Passlock2 resistance value
and shows diagrams of the relay wiring required. Here is a link : https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1206
Soldering is fun!
squallz 
Member - Posts: 42
Member spacespace
Joined: March 21, 2018
Posted: March 22, 2018 at 10:35 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote squallz
I got 13,700 ohms when the key was on.
Do I just get a 13k ohm resistor with 10% tolerance?
kreg357 
Platinum - Posts: 7,827
Platinum spaceThis member has made a donation to the12volt.com. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Electrical Theory. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Security and Convenience. Click here for more info.spacespace
Joined: January 30, 2009
Location: Pennsylvania, United States
Posted: March 22, 2018 at 3:26 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
Was the test done with the Yellow wire cut and measured in accordance with the Tech Tip?
The resistor value must be very close to the measurement. I would "create" a resistor using
several resistors with Gold bands ( +/- 5% tolerance ). If you bought the DEI 652T VATS
resistor kit, you could combine the 11.8k and the 1,870 ohm resistors in series to come up
with 13,670 ohms. Verify it with a DMM but 13,670 is close enough to 13,700 to work.
Soldering is fun!
squallz 
Member - Posts: 42
Member spacespace
Joined: March 21, 2018
Posted: March 22, 2018 at 3:29 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote squallz
Yes that's how I got it. I was thinking a 13k
kreg357 
Platinum - Posts: 7,827
Platinum spaceThis member has made a donation to the12volt.com. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Electrical Theory. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Security and Convenience. Click here for more info.spacespace
Joined: January 30, 2009
Location: Pennsylvania, United States
Posted: March 22, 2018 at 4:03 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
Well, 13k ohms puts you just outside of 5%. I have heard that staying within 3% is preferred.
It's your car, so give it a try. Remember that these resistor values can vary with temperature,
so it might start every time in the summer but have issues during cold weather. The DEI 652T
kit is under $5 and comes with Gold tolerance band resistors. I would definitely solder all
those connections.
Soldering is fun!
squallz 
Member - Posts: 42
Member spacespace
Joined: March 21, 2018
Posted: March 22, 2018 at 5:19 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote squallz
Just ordered that kit. It will be here Saturday. Will return with results.
squallz 
Member - Posts: 42
Member spacespace
Joined: March 21, 2018
Posted: March 25, 2018 at 11:09 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote squallz
How hard is it to wire in the keyless entry and trunk function and parking lights/horn on this car? (All from the DEI remote starter)? Is it as easy and splicing into the wires going into the BCM?
kreg357 
Platinum - Posts: 7,827
Platinum spaceThis member has made a donation to the12volt.com. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Electrical Theory. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Security and Convenience. Click here for more info.spacespace
Joined: January 30, 2009
Location: Pennsylvania, United States
Posted: March 26, 2018 at 4:29 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
Your car is similar to many GM vehicles from that era. Not that hard but you will need some parts.
If your car came with Factory Remote Keyless Entry, you have Type A door locks and must convert the R/S's (-) Door lock outputs to (+) signals. If it didn't come with RKE you have Type C door locks and will need relays to interface with the cars door lock wires. The easiest way to do this is with a DEI 451M Door Lock Module. It will handle either door lock system. Available on EBay for under $10.
The cars Trunk Release requires a strong (+) signal. You will need a 30/40 Amp SPDT relay with harness and an inline fuse holder with a 10 Amp fuse to wire this up using the R/S (-) Trunk Release signal. This site has relay signal polarity change wiring diagrams to assist, if needed.
The Parking Lights need a (+) signal. The DEI R/S unit can handle this by inserting the supplied jumper ( or fuse ) properly for a (+) Parking Light output.
Here is a link to Bulldog Security for their wiring info on your car :
http://diagrams.marktoonen.nl/printlist.aspx?MakeID=35&ModelID=14970
I'm guessing that the Paslock2 bypass was handled by the resistors in the 652T kit?
Soldering is fun!
Page of 4

  Printable version Printable version Post ReplyPost New Topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

  •  
Search the12volt.com
Follow the12volt.com Follow the12volt.com on Facebook
Saturday, July 12, 2025 • Copyright © 1999-2025 the12volt.com, All Rights Reserved Privacy Policy & Use of Cookies
Disclaimer: *All information on this site ( the12volt.com ) is provided "as is" without any warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including but not limited to fitness for a particular use. Any user assumes the entire risk as to the accuracy and use of this information. Please verify all wire colors and diagrams before applying any information.

Secured by Sectigo
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
Support the12volt.com
Top
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer