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joelsalvador10 
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Posted: May 27, 2005 at 1:31 PM / IP Logged  

Hello everyone,

I bought the 12 volt installation CD and I cheked the wiring code for my Dodge Grand Caravan Sports.   It looks to me that it is complicated to install my remote start w/alarm because of the possibility that my van is equipped with a Transponder Theft System.  If it is not complicated,  I just have top the wire, use some relays and transistor if possible.  Any suggestion is greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

jns
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not being psychic... what model year of Caravan??
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joelsalvador10 
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Thank for responding but I'm sorry I forgot to put the year of my car.  Anyway the year is 2001 Dodge grand caravan sport. 
jns
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Only vehicles with gray keys (Sentry Key) have the immobilizer.
DIRECTWIRE™ WIRING INFORMATION - DODGE / CARAVAN / 2001 / Remote Start
12volts lt. blue/red (10A)   +   ignition harness
Notes: This wire is rated at 10 amps only. If installing any system with high current outputs, go to battery for 12v.
Starter yellow   +   ignition harness
Second Starter PURPLE / brown   -   ignition harness
Notes: The second starter wire is negative trigger thru a 180 ohm resistor. MUST use a relay. Refer to DirectFax document 1083 for wiring information.
Ignition pink/white   +   ignition harness
Second Ignition N/A       
Third Ignition N/A       
Accessory not required for remote start       
Second Accessory N/A       
Keysense          
Power Lock PURPLE / green   -   conn. 3, pin 21 @ BCM
Notes: Lock is negative trigger thru a 5.3K ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger thru a 2.0K ohm resistor. MUST use relays.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.
Can also use Directed 457C or 456L interface modules.
Power Unlock same wire as power lock       
Lock Motor tan/white      conn. 2, pin 10 @ BCM
Notes: The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.
Unlock Motor tan/lt. green      conn. 2, pin 28 @ BCM
Notes: The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.
Parking Lights+ DO NOT USE       
Parking Lights- WHITE/ brown   -   headlight switch
Notes: The parking lights are negative trigger thru a 2.1K ohm resistor. The headlights are negative trigger thru a 790 ohm resistor. There is a rest resistance on the wire, so MUST use a relay to isolate away from the switch. See DirectFax document 1082 for wiring information.
Hazards          
Turn Signal(L)          
Turn Signal(R)          
Reverse Light          
Door Trigger     -   conn. 3 @ BCM
Notes: There are separate door triggers for each door, they are all in connector 3 at the BCM. The driver door trigger is purple in pin 6, the passenger door is PURPLE / white in pin 7, the left sliding door is PURPLE / gray in pin 8, and the right sliding door is purple / YELLOW in pin 5. Use all four and diode isolate each. See DirectFax document 1076 for wiring information.
The BCM is in the drivers kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.
Dome Supervision use door trigger       
Trunk/Hatch Pin PURPLE / orange   -   conn. 3, pin 29 @ BCM
Notes: A diode must be placed inline on this wire to avoid problems with the dome lights and parking lights.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.
Hood Pin PURPLE / lt. blue   -   conn. 3, pin 30 @ BCM
Notes: The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.
Trunk/Hatch Release PURPLE / tan   -   conn. 2, pin 6 @ BCM
Notes: Hatch release is negative trigger thru a 1.69K ohm resistor. MUST use a relay.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.
Power Sliding Door PURPLE / blue   -   conn. 3, pin 1 @ BCM
Notes: Left power sliding door is negative trigger thru a 1.5K ohm resistor. Right power sliding door is negative trigger thru a 2.7K ohm resistor. MUST use relays.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.
Factory Alarm Arm PURPLE / lt. blue   -   conn. 3, pin 14 @ BCM
Notes: Arm is negative trigger thru a 1.5K ohm resistor, this will also lock the doors. Disarm is negative trigger thru a 9.1K ohm resistor, if use double pulse this will also unlock the doors. MUST use relays.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.
Can also use Directed 457C or 456L interface modules.
Factory Alarm Disarm same wire as alarm arm       
Disarm No Unlock          
Tachometer     ac   ignition coil pack
Notes: On the 2.4L use blue/green or blue/tan. On the 3.3L/3.8L use blue/green, blue/tan or blue/orange.
Wait to start          
Brake Wire WHITE/ tan   +   brake pedal switch
Parking Brake          
Horn Trigger GREEN/ purple   -   steering column
Memory Seat 1          
Memory Seat 2          
Memory Seat 3          
Interface Module: Category:
Immobilizer Bypass Required:
Yes Type:
Sentry Key
Part #: 555CW
Alternate Part1 #: 556UW
Alternate Part2 #: 555U
Notes: Only vehicles with gray keys have the immobilizer.
Interface Module: Category:
Door Lock Interface Required:
Yes Type:
Data Bus
Part #: 457CW
Alternate Part1 #: 456LW
Notes:
      
This wiring information is being provided free of charge on an "as is" basis, without any representation or warranty. It is your responsibility to verify any circuit before interfacing with it using a digital multimeter.
Directed electronics, Inc. assumes no responsibility with regards to the accuracy or currency of this information. Proper installation in every case is and remains the responsibility of the installer. DEI assumes no liability or responsibility resulting from improper installation, even in reliance upon this information.
Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it.Dodge Grand Caravan, Remote start -- posted image.
joelsalvador10 
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 Thank you so much for your tip and information.   This will save me more time installing my remote start.  I hope to get more tips from you guys.  Again, thank you Mr. thepencil.    
jns
joelsalvador10 
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Hello everybody, 

     Before starting installing my remote car alarm,  I want know how to test a wire that has a negative trigger for example;  My starter wire has a negative trigger of 180 ohm reisistance.  How can I test it?  Is this one of the reason why I have to use a relay?   Thank you in advance.    

jns
joelsalvador10 
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Hello, 

I'm still green and don't really know about wiring.  I have already a wiring information for my van.  My second starter wire is negative trigger thru a 180 ohm resistor, power lock is negative trigger thru 5.3 K ohm resistor, and unlock is negative trigger thru a 2.0 K ohm resistor.  Do I have to use a relay for each one?  Where can i get the diagram?  Is it because of the negative trigger that is why I need to use a relay.  Thanks in advance. 

jns
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Well you obviously have one of the chrysler minivans and this is how it works.

Your starter relay gets wired: 86 12 volts, 85 -starter output, 30 to ground with your resistor and 87 to the starter wire.

You have whats called "one wire door locks", which means you need two relays and the proper resistor values.

Relay one is wired 86 12v, 85 lock wire, 30 ground, 87 lockout put with resistor

Relay two is wired 86 12v, 85 unlock wire, 30 ground, 87 unlockoutput with resistor. once these are built send both outputs to the PURPLE / green door lock/unlock wire in your car.

joelsalvador10 
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Thanks for the information Jason.  How do I know what ohms do I have to use for the resistor.
jns
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Hopefully this might help.
Notes: Lock is negative trigger thru a 5.3K ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger thru a 2.0K ohm resistor. MUST use relays.
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