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larryc 
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Is it ok to replace a relay that has terminals 85 and 86 (coil) reversed?

Hyundai 01 Elantra (part number Omron 95224-29000)

A dealership gave me a new relay with slightly different numbers and 85 and 86 are reversed.

Would this damage the electrical system to use it?

Thanks

howie ll 
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No provided it doesn't have a built in diode.
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Except for diodes, they are equivalent.
If spark-quenching/suppression diodes are fitted, the convention is that #86 is the +ve and #85 the -ve side of the relay's coil.
If reversed, the diode will short +12V to gnd until the diode blows, else the feeding circuit or fuse blows.
If it's a snubber/quenching resistor rather than a diode, then it won't matter - they are non-polar like the coil.
A relay should indicate a diode or resistor (rectangle) if they are included internally.
larryc 
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The relay is "rectangular" but not marked as to whether it has a diode. 

Is there a way to test it for a diode?

thanks

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It's tricky - a voltage divider is probably best...
IE - if connected with a resistor of similar value (to the coil - probably between ~80 to ~200 Ohms) and place across 12V, in one direction the diode will short the coil hence reducing the coil's voltage to about 0.6 volts, or conversely, brightening the bulb if a test lamp is used - ie, a 3W bulb is about 60 Ohms.
But relays with diodes should be marked...

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