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Posted: April 18, 2003 at 11:15 AM / IP Logged  
I'm working on a 1999 pontiac grand am. It has no factory keyless entry or alarm. I put a valient (from jc whitney)keyless entry on it. Everything works great. However, when the doors are closed, nothing works at all. I figure it has to do with a theft deterrent system or something like that. I figure I'll need some sort of bypass module for the keyless entry to work. Rght? What do I need and where do I get it? Please help me if you can.
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Posted: April 18, 2003 at 3:58 PM / IP Logged  
did you double check the hook up???
sounds like you migt some wires crossed...
post your hook ups.
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Alarm      Hookup
red        +12v
black      gnd
white      gnd
lock       white
green      white(1500 resistor)
yellow     white
brown      black wire of alarm(gnd)
orange     trunk trigger switch
Since everything works fine with the doors open, I wouldn't think that crossed wires is the problem. The owner told me that the car has numerous built in safety features like the one i described. He told me that ever since he had the car he couldn't lock the doors with the keys in the ignition. So I think its something with the way the car is programmed. Maybe not? Thanks for the help. Please keep it coming!
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Posted: April 18, 2003 at 5:21 PM / IP Logged  
where are you getting your 12v from
try these wires
Constant 12 volts RED & RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts PINK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light WHITE (-) AT COURTESY LIGHT UNDER DASH
Trunk Pin Switch N/A
Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
Power Lock WHITE DRIVER KICK #217
Power Unlock SINGLE WIRE SYSTEM PANEL **
Doorlocks Are Found As A Single Wire System. A Negative Pusle On The WHITE Wire In The Driver Kick Panel Will Lock The Doors. A Negative Pulse Thru A 1.5K Ohm Resistor On The Same WHITE Wire Will Unlock The Doors. #217- See Single Wire Resistor Door Lock Diagram.
ng your 12v from????
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Posted: April 18, 2003 at 10:12 PM / IP Logged  
my 12v is from the power lead to the power mirrors. (only +12 in the entire door!). I had questioned it myself if this were adequate
Dyer
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Posted: April 18, 2003 at 11:05 PM / IP Logged  
You have an odd problem. The Grand Am usually does NOT lock with the door open. The only way it will lock is if the doors are closed. Did you use relays to ground the signal from the alarm or did you just use the (-) ground from the alarm and add a resistor to the UNLOCK wire ?
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Posted: April 19, 2003 at 8:42 AM / IP Logged  
im kinda lost here. did you put the unit in the door??
i would go to the ing. harness to get my power, and switched power wires.
i think i would start over and go to the ign. harness to start off.
keep us updated.
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Posted: April 19, 2003 at 12:29 PM / IP Logged  
Velocity,
I did not use any relays. Was I supposed to? I just used the (-) ground from the alarm and added a resistor to the UNLOCK wire.
draasch,
Yes my unit is in the door. I can try an alternate +12 surce if you think that would be best.
Thanks to both of yall in advance.
Dyer
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Posted: April 19, 2003 at 12:35 PM / IP Logged  
i would only because most of your hook up points will be under the dash. also it will keep moisture out of the unit. and yes i would use two relays...
Doorlocks Are Found As A Single Wire System. A Negative Pusle On The WHITE Wire In The Driver Kick Panel Will Lock The Doors. A Negative Pulse Thru A 1.5K Ohm Resistor On The Same WHITE Wire Will Unlock The Doors
hope it all works out for you..
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David
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Posted: April 19, 2003 at 12:41 PM / IP Logged  
how would i wire the relays?
Dyer

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