06 hondal civic rs issues viper db all

Ok here is where I am at…sorry for the long post but I wanted to be as detailed as possible. Vehicle is a 2006 Honda Civic Auto Trans Installing a Viper 4203V Responder one 1 button 2-way Remote Start only Using a DB-ALL interface box, firmware is HONDA4, wired in D2D using install type 2 Here are the connections I have made Viper Wire     Wire in Vehicle Heavy Gauge harness      Red (both reds are tied together)     White in ignition harness Pink Ignition out     Blue in ignition harness Violet Starter out     Yellow ignition harness Orange Accessory     Orange Ignition harness Pink/white 2nd accessory     Red ignition harness       Primary Harness      Lt GREEN/ Black Factory Alarm Disarm     Not used GREEN / WHITE Factory Rearm     Not used Yellow Ignition out (to alarm)     Not used WHITE/ Blue Activation Input     Not used Orange Ground when locked(not used in one button)     Not used Brown Horn output     Orange small steer wheel harness RED / white (not used in one button)     Not used Black Ground     Using factory ground point under dash above fuse panel       4 Pin Satellite Harness      Not used       Door Lock Harness      Not used       Remote Start harness       BLACK/ White Neutral Safety Switch      Wired Through toggle switch and grounded at factory ground under dash just above fuse panel Violet/white Tach input     Not used Brown brake switch     Although the DB-all says this does not need to be wired, at first the car started and would not shut off, so I wired it to the lt green wire at the brake switch Gray Hood pin     Installed hood pin Blue/white Defogger     Not used       DB-ALL WIRES      Pink Ignition input     Blue Ignition harness Lt Green Single CAN Wire      Pink 7 pin immobilizer connector ORANGE / black Immobilizer Data     Lt Green 7 pin immobilizer connector BLACK/ white Lock output      Green in white plug going to driver door GREEN/ Black Unlock ouput     Gray in white plug going to driver door Ok so those are the wire I have connected, and here is what is going on. I got everything and programmed the DB-all, and tried to remote start and it worked fine. Then I noticed that it was not turning off with the foot brake, at this point I hard wired the foot brake input directly to the remote start ( thinking out loud, b/c I’m using the DB-All should I have used the output from that instead of going right to the foot brake…thoughts?) at this point the system seemed to be working fine. I tested it several times (probably 10 or so) and there were no issues. I then put everything back together and was about to pull out of the shop, I go to remote start……nothing happens and I get a “Failed Tone” from the 2-way remote and red LED. I pull everything a part again and double check all my wiring and connections, confirming wires with me DMM, all the while trying to RS the vehicle, about 1 out of every 10 attempts the vehicle would RS, and once it RS started and the horn started going off (the factory alarm I would assume) This one has me really confused, I feel like it could be the factory anti theft system giving me issues, but then I also feel like sometimes the signal is not even getting to the control unit for the remote start, almost like I have the antenna disconnected ( I don’t though….i checked that). Any ideas, I know this is a long one but its so intermittent its killing me brain. Thank you    Also I typed this in word, if you're having a hard time reading the wiring info I can email you the table. Thanks again

For what its worth, I rarely have had any luck with D2D. I always go W2W and have had much more reliability. I agree that it sounds like it is not disarming the alarm on remote start. You can also check the programming on the unit and make sure it is set to disarm before remote start.Kenny

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offroadzj wrote: For what its worth, I rarely have had any luck with D2D. I always go W2W and have had much more reliability. I agree that it sounds like it is not disarming the alarm on remote start. You can also check the programming on the unit and make sure it is set to disarm before remote start.

When say check programing you are referring to the DB-all Correct? Also would just hooking up the disarm wire from the RS directly to the car fix this, or would that upset the DB-all for some reason??? Im just spit balling here. One more also...would you recommend a different bypass, I dont have an issue getting another one and starting fresh.. Thank you

the dball will automatically take care of disarm for you. a buddy did a test vehicle 09 civic with dball/5901 works fine. had the same issue of it not wanting to start. i rechecked the wiring and had to run a tach wire. note check your wires for immobilizer/data. Ted

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tedmond wrote: the dball will automatically take care of disarm for you. a buddy did a test vehicle 09 civic with dball/5901 works fine. had the same issue of it not wanting to start. i rechecked the wiring and had to run a tach wire. note check your wires for immobilizer/data.

I will give this a try...I am still concerned that the RS box makes zero noise, like I can't hear any relays clicking, not parking light flash, almost like its not getting a signal from remote...how could i test fot this?

on the primary harness there should be a red wire fused. this is the power for your brain.Ted

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tedmond wrote: on the primary harness there should be a red wire fused. this is the power for your brain.

Normally there is, however on this system there is not....its the viper responder one.....its a one button remote start only. There are two fused power wires on the heavy gauge harness. I found it odd that there were was not a small gauge power wire on the main harness too.    Here is a link to the install manual for the system I used Viper Responder One Thank you again for your help guys.

check to see if you have power and ground at the connectors. the remotes come pre programmed. check to see if fuses are still good. i say the ground connection should be double checked.Ted

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I am 99% sure they are all good.....I have a few more ideas to try just from other posts (the tach wire, and i will prob reflash the DB-All just to be sure) problem is the car is back with customer...god i hate that i had to return it not working. In either case....I really feel like the remotes are not even transmitting with the control unit cause i can't here the units relays click at all when i push the button on the remote....like if it were a security problem wouldn't the RS control unit still try to got through the motions of starting, even it the car didn't respond. My question is at what point do i consider either a bad antena or a bad control model??? Thanks again for the quick responses.

its most likely antenna, but not limited to module or a pinched antenna wire. do you have extra control modules for replacement?Ted

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