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ramsesfan13 
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Posted: December 11, 2012 at 6:03 AM / IP Logged  
HI everyone! I'm installing my third remote start, and I'm afraid I have some newb questions. I'm installing a Ultra Start 1272xr Pro and a Fortin Evo-all on a 2008 Nissan Altima. I've done some searching, but to no avail. My first question, on the remote start(RS), on the thicker gauge wires, the green wire states it is a Heater Output that is 0v when key is off, 12v in ACC and IGN positions, and off during start/crank. I though this might connect to a accessory wire, but when I test those wires according to my diagrams, all show 0v off,12v in ACC,and 12v while it runs. Where does this wire go? Also, on the same harness, the green wire says it is a selectable output. Either as a 2nd ignition, ACC or Start output. Does this need connected? My wiring diagram shows I have one positive Ignition. The other is a negative. Thanks for any insight!
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Posted: December 11, 2012 at 6:23 AM / IP Logged  

You have chosen are "unique" vehicle for your 3rd install.  Unique in the fact that it is a Push To Start and uses CAN data for a lot of functions.   The good news is that the EVO-ALL does most everything for you.  Just follow the EVO-ALL install guide.  Here is a link :  https://ifar.ca/download/4211/preview.html

You will not be using / connecting the U1272's Accessory all.  If you are going W2W ( I would ) the U1272s' (+) Starter wire goes to the EVO-ALL only, not to the car.  Basically follow the EVO-ALL Type 5 install guide.  There are a few U1272 connections not shown, like the Parking Lights and horn.  Those would be connected in the usual manor.

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ramsesfan13 
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Posted: December 11, 2012 at 8:09 AM / IP Logged  
Thanks for the quick reply! Yes, it's unique, I'll give you that. However, I have followed the Type 5 install, I have a wiring diagram from this site, plus a diagram from Fortin's own site. I have all the wires connected in for the Fortin, such as the PTS, the OBD port, Brake switch, and key port. On the RS, I have the 12v, Ignition, parking lights, horn, and ground connected. All that is left are these pesky 16 gauge green (heater output), and white(Selectable output/2nd ignition) I cannot for the life of me figure what to do with them. The harness has 6 wires. 2 of them are red and fused-that is my 12v. I have them connected. The blue is ignition- I have that connected. Yellow is starter output-I have that connected. What are the other 2 for?
ramsesfan13 
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Posted: December 11, 2012 at 8:14 AM / IP Logged  
Actually, I just reread your post 3 times, and looked at the Fortin diagram. So, all I need is to connect the 2 red wires for 12v, the ground, and the blue ignition wire? The diagram shows the ignition wire goes to the yellow ignition wire on the Fortin through a 1A diode, and then to car? That's it? What about the yellow starter wire on the RS?
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Posted: December 11, 2012 at 3:27 PM / IP Logged  

Yes.  From the U1272 6 Pin heavy gauge ignition harness you would have the two Red fused power wires going to +12V constant.  The Blue

Ignition1 wire goes to the EVO-ALL Yellow wire and also thru a 1N400x diode to the vehicles Ignition wire.  The thick Yellow wire goes to the
EVO-ALLs' RED / Blue wire.  As I mentioned, I would go W2W and make all the necessary connections from the U1272 to the EVO-ALL shown in
dashed lines.  Those connections include :

U1272 Signal        EVO-ALL Altima

9 Pin harness
Pink       Brake           Black
Blue/White       Tach             Pink
RED / White        Trunk Release       Yellow/Black
WHITE/ Blue       Horn           blue/white or blue/orange (-)  @ horn switch, gray 8 pin plug, pin 8        
GREEN / WHITE   Hood Pin    Pink/Black (if Factory pin present, otherwise install supplied hood pin )

Parking Light/Ground

White (+)         Parking Light (+)        RED / blue (+)     @ dash fuse box, white 10 pin plug, pin 8
Black   Ground   Chassis Ground

Lock harness

Green   Lock          Purple
Blue      Unlock      PURPLE / White

Bypass harness

WHITE/ Violet     GWR          Dark Blue     
Red       +12V          Red   \    On 4 Pin harness, cut
Black     Ground     Black /    See page 3 Without DataLink

Ignition harness

Blue thick         IGN1         Yellow      plus thru 1N400x       RED / black  @ BCM, black 40 pin plug, pin 11    or   @ Green (+) wire @ Pin 8 of OBD2 connector
Yellow thick      Starter     RED / Blue
Red x 2 +12V            WHITE/ black (40A)     @ BCM, black 3 pin plug, pin 1

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ramsesfan13 
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Posted: December 11, 2012 at 5:49 PM / IP Logged  
Thank you x 10! I mad all the necessary connections. Now, I'm caught up trying to program the Evo-All. I get to step 6, which is wait for the blue LED to flash after I've started the car, but it never blinks. I have figure that out. Anyone have experience with the Evo-All, in particular with programming?
ramsesfan13 
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Posted: December 11, 2012 at 6:31 PM / IP Logged  
Yeah, I got the evo_all programmed. However, now the RS won't do anything. I have 12v coming in, and good ground. But if I push buttons on remotes, absolutely nothing happens. Thoughts?
ramsesfan13 
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Hey kreg357, thanks for all the help. Question-on your wiring, pertaining to bypass(Datalink)harness-I am confused. In order to program the evo-all, I have to use the Datalink. Is it ok to have the Datalink plugged in, and still connect all the wires you mentioned above?
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Posted: December 12, 2012 at 8:54 AM / IP Logged  
The 4 Pin Datalink connector is still used but, after the modification, only for power and ground.  That is the W2W mode of connection.  You can use the U1272's
bypass connector for power and ground as shown above and follow the EVO-ALL install guide on page 3, "Without Datalink" harness modification instructions
to make the connections ( also mentioned above ).
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ramsesfan13 
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Posted: December 12, 2012 at 9:13 AM / IP Logged  
Gotcha. The harness has 3 connectors. One that goes to the evo-all, and one that goes to the RS, but there is a 4 inch pigtail that comes off that. I have everything connected, I will just snip the other 2 wires on that harness. As I mentioned, I got the evo-all programmed, but the RS isn't doing anything. Fuses ok, power ok, ground ok. Just seems dead. The other 2-3 starters I've installed were a breeze. This one has me baffled.
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