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radiotech1964 
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Posted: July 08, 2013 at 4:39 PM / IP Logged  
I have a 2006 Dodge Caravan with OEM power locks but no power sliding door or hatch. Also no Sentry Key. I have a DE 712t kit that has been here forever I need to install but have ran into a problem on the door lock wiring which is a mux system. Is there an optional interface to go with this kit or a way I can make up something on site to get this working?
Thanks for any advice and help!
Regards,
Wayne Thomas
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If the 712 has 2 lock wires you will need relays to drive the resistors.
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I quote:-"Lock is negative trigger thru a 5.3K ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger thru a 2.0K ohm resistor. MUST use relays. The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. Can also use Directed interface modules".
radiotech1964 
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Thanks for the information ! The resistance values helps consideraby.. now I won't have to measure the switches :)
Wayne
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One other question I forgot to ask but I think I am correct in my calculations ..Are the resistors supposed to apply the 5.3K resistance between the vehicles lock/unlock ckt to the BCM and chassis ground?
And wired to completely isolate that resistance at all times unless the fob lock function is depressed?
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Posted: July 09, 2013 at 6:09 AM / IP Logged  
Yes, I think.
For Lock, the 712T's Lock output pulse will trigger a relay. The relay will connect a chassis ground thru a
5.3K ohm resistor to the vehicles Lock/Unlock wire.
For Lock, the 712T's Unlock output pulse will trigger a relay. The relay will connect a chassis ground thru a
2K ohm resistor to the vehicles Lock/Unlock wire.
Here is a diagram from Bulldog Security :
http://diagrams.marktoonen.nl/DOWNLOADS/17044_CARAVAN_CHRYSLER%20MINI%20VAN%2001%20-%20UP%201%20WIRE%20JBS%20UNITS.pdf
The top diagram would be the one to use. ( Please note the diagram has Pin 85 and 86 labels switched and did
not use a quenching diode across the relays' coil.)
Soldering is fun!
howie ll 
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Posted: July 09, 2013 at 6:23 AM / IP Logged  
Here are two ways to do it, they are both effectively the same, resistor values and colours vary for different vehicles:-
FEF_multiplex_via_relays.bmp
27B_resistive_locks.bmp
Sorry, didn't understand your last question, if I did the answer is that the relays effectively isolate the RKE wires from the BCM.
Kregg, not talking to me?
I emailed you last weekend and you didn't get back to me unless you were busy.
radiotech1964 
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Posted: July 09, 2013 at 11:50 AM / IP Logged  
Thanks for all the great info ! I "think" that the 712 has internal door lock relays because I can hear relays operating internally when the fob is pressed so I might be able to do a direct wire without an isolation relay arrangement. The information for the 712 says relays required but if the ckt is a true open when at rest it shouldn't load the vehicles lock/unlock ckt.
Thanks again for all the information! Jogged my memory for sure!
Wayne
howie ll 
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Posted: July 09, 2013 at 12:25 PM / IP Logged  
I did say two wires earlier and you never picked up on this.
With two wires your lock unlocks will be green and blue.
With internal relays the following 6:-
Violet
Violet/black
GREEN/ black
WHITE/ black
Blue/black
and BROWN / black.
Your instructions should show you this.
howie ll 
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Posted: July 09, 2013 at 12:28 PM / IP Logged  
Wiring will then be violet and violet black to a good ground, e.g. bolt to kick panel, remove bolt use a ring terminal and scrape to bare metal under the bolt.
WHITE/ black and BROWN / black don't use and insulate.
GREEN/ black via resistor LOCK.
Blue/black via resistor UNLOCK.
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