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Mad Scientists 
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Posted: February 07, 2004 at 5:57 PM / IP Logged  

 Vehicle is 1997 Sebring Convertible. Alarm appears to be a Baretta FM-5000 system as pictured here..

http://www.itsrealstuff.com/html/alarm_pagers.html

 Remote looks similiar and brain looks identical to system installed in vehicle; horn looks somewhat different. I suspect system is identical to Commando FM-5000 system - replacement remote looks identical.

http://www.commandocaralarms.com/itemdetails.asp?Productid=733

 Difference between Baretta remote and Commando remote is the words 'FM two-way' in upper left corner of display. I would assume that remotes are interchangeable.

 Vehicle/system has intermittant problems; remote start works intermittantly, alarm fails to set on occasion and needs to be cycled to arm. Reaching under the dash and shaking system wiring sometimes causes remote start to work.

Pulled interior apart today to inspect install. Found 'spit and twist', power wiring extended with speaker wire, some connections made with what appear to be crimped wire nuts (crimp caps?), one fuse holder appears that the ATC style fuse contained inside has melted and has green colored plastic running out of it, and my personal favorite, numerous connections where the 'spit and twist' is taped over, then a 'tie wrap' is tightly installed over connection.

 What I'm looking for in owners manual/install manual for unit, clarification on whether the Baretta and Commando systems are the same, and any other helpful hints/suggestions.

 Thanks in advance,

 Jim

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Posted: February 07, 2004 at 6:05 PM / IP Logged  

YEs they are the same. Its like Viper and Sidewinder. as for the install manaual

http://www.commandocaralarms.com/manuals/fm-5005manual.pdf

And for your vehicle

Chrysler

Sebring Convertible

1996-2000

Remote Starter  Wiring Colors and Notes

Function

 

Vehicle  Color

Location

Start:

 

YELLOW

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS *

Ignition  #1:

 

D BLUE

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition #2:

 

BLACK/ ORANGE

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS (HEAT/AC)

Ignition  #3:

 

N/A

Accessory:

 

BLACK/ WHITE

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Brake  Light:

 

WHITE/ TAN (+)

AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL

Tach  Signal:

 

BLACK/ GRAY

AT DISTRIBUTOR (6 CYLINDER)

Parking Lights:

 

BLACK / YELLOW (+)

GRAY # PIN CONN. AT FUSE BLOCK

Headlights:

 

VIOLET/WHITE (LO) &

RED / ORG (HI) (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH

OEM Alarm  Disarm:

 

LT. GREEN/ ORANGE

# PIN BLACK CONNECTOR

OEM Alarm  Arm:

 

LT. GREEN/ ORANGE

IN DRIVER'S KICK PANEL ***

Diesel  Glow Plug:

 

Clutch  Bypass Wire:

 

Notes:

 * If This Vehicle Has A Gray Ignition Key, Then It Is Equipped Wiith Chrysler's Smart Key Engine Immobilizer. See Installation Note #144 - Bypassing Transponder Passive Theft System Diagram.


Chrysler

Sebring Convertible

1996-2000

Alarm and Keyless  Entry Wiring Colors and Notes

Function

 

Vehicle  Color

Location

Constant  +12 Volts:

 

RED (2) & BLACK

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Starter  Kill:

 

YELLOW

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS *

Ignition  +12 Volts:

 

D BLUE

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Dome  Lights/Superv:

 

YELLOW (-)

BLACK 3 PIN CONN. IN DR. KICK PANEL

OEM Horn:

 

BLACK/ RED (-)

STEERING COLUMN HARNESS

Power  Lock:

 

SINGLE WIRE SYSTEM

# PIN CONNECTOR AT BODY CONTROL

Power  Unlock:

 

WHITE/ LT. GREEN

MODULE IN DRIVER KICK PANEL **

Trunk  Release:

 

L GREEN/ BLACK (+)

AT RELEASE SWITCH

Alarm  Input Wire:

 

YELLOW (-)

BLACK 3 PIN CONN. IN DR. KICK PANEL

Notes:

** See Note # 217 - Cirrus/Sebring/Stratus/Breeze Single Wire Single Wire Door Lock Diagram, A Positive Pulse Through A 2.7 K-Ohm Resistor for Unlock, A Positive Pulse Through A 620 Ohm Resistor for Lock. *** Single Wire System, A Positive Pulse Through A 940 Ohm for Arming Alarm, A Positive Pulse Through A 270 Ohm for Disarming Alarm).

"Big" Mike
Double Take
Fremont, Ne
remember to check all your wires with a dmm not a test light!!
i take no responsibilty whatsoever for the vailidty of the info nor consequences thereof
jrilla 
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Posted: February 07, 2004 at 7:27 PM / IP Logged  
I wouldn't put any hope in getting it working consistently. Those are pretty poor units. i had one and it just never worked well. Great range though
J Rilla
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Mad Scientists 
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Posted: February 09, 2004 at 7:05 PM / IP Logged  

 Thanks for the responses... already had the 5005 manual, but was hoping someone knew where there was a 5000 owners and install on the web. When the system was working correctly, it worked pretty well. I suspect that once I correctly connect all the wiring (for me, 'correctly' means soldered & heatshrinked) that the system will work correctly again.

 If anything, I was surprised at the quality of the install.. if it was an owner install, then I'm surprised that they did at least part of it right.. if it was a pro install, then I'd like to know where it was done so I could stay away from them.. (not that I let anyone do anything to my cars anyway..<grin>)

 Thanks,

Jim

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Posted: February 11, 2004 at 7:07 PM / IP Logged  
Hey Jim, The wiring information is on the back of the CPU and the programming information I have, just let me know what your after, remote learning, tach learning, etc.....
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

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