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col3man

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Posted: May 17, 2004 at 12:13 AM / IP Logged

In my failed install attempt this weekend, I discovered I'm basically trying to acheive on thing, which is get the doors to lock and unlock remotely. The Hornet is a little too complex as just a remote door lock device, but hey.. My question is this: Are the door lock/unlock leads going to reqire a high current or should the pulsed unlock lead and a lock lead from the Hornet have enough power, or should I relay a 12V source or ground source?? I have the correct unlock and lock factory leads going into the factory drive block box.. I'm just not getting the Hornet and the unlock and lock leads to communicate.. the Hornet alarm has an unlock lead and a lock lead, which are labeled {green (-) lock , (+) unlock output} and [blue (-) unlock (+) lock output] I'm even a bit confused on these, does one lead supply both neg and pos. depending on the lock or unlock?

Thanks in advance!

Coleman.

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Posted: May 17, 2004 at 11:05 AM / IP Logged

-the doorlock on the hornet is not high current, it should have enuff current to drive the relay of doorlocks.

-if your vehicle have neg doorlock pulse, then just follow the the negative and block out the positive.

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Posted: May 17, 2004 at 11:21 AM / IP Logged

yes, they toggle between + & - , so if you need a negative trigger for your DRL system using the appropriate wire to get a negative pulse, if you require a positive, the the opposite, etc.

they are a low current output designed to trip a relayed circuit... in many cases they will directly tap in... if however, you are unsure about the current requirements of your vehicle i would recommend that you use a 451M DRL module...they are cheap and remove all doubt....

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col3man

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Posted: May 17, 2004 at 4:46 PM / IP Logged

Thanks for the tip.. I have ordered a DEI 451M unit.. Do you have the Document #1041 for DEI install lock wiring guide? I tried to get it from tech support, and they snuffed me... (bastards!!) I will try the module and see if that solves any issues in this.. I know it cant be that tough.. I think I should go back with my Multimeter and watch all aspects of the lock/unlock actions and make notes... any tips??

Coleman.

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Posted: May 17, 2004 at 9:38 PM / IP Logged

if you search for dirext fax on this sub forum, youll find it. after you find that link copy that link paste it on ur address bar and change the document # at the end of the adress link.

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col3man

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Posted: May 17, 2004 at 10:33 PM / IP Logged

Awsome!! here is the URL:

http://directechs.com/techtips/pdfs/resources/security/directed_techtips/1041.pdf

Directfax. It goes into heavy detail on locking systems.

Spread info. this list Rules!! I got what I needed from you, not even the manufacturer.. odd the way things work...

Thanks.

Coleman

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Posted: May 18, 2004 at 10:54 PM / IP Logged

becaues the people who have DEI access and share it suck

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col3man

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Posted: May 18, 2004 at 11:12 PM / IP Logged

huh? people who share knowledge suck?? maybe I misunderstood you.. I thought that you said that people who help each other suck.. No, I must have misunderstood your post...

Coleman.

sroth140

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Posted: May 19, 2004 at 2:53 AM / IP Logged

im all for helping people but...

DEI gives access to directfax, directechs, techsoft, directwire ect to its dealers on a privileged basis. they are not supposed to share it without giving up the right to use it. i have access to anything DEI related, but i dont share it. i will still help people but i will not link right to a fax document or post an entire vehicles wiring diagram. i didnt always have access and i had to test things for my self. the 451m is basically two relays. if someone working in the feild cannot understand it, or at least play with it and get it to work, shouldnt be doing the install. having the install guide for the 451m helps know what the terminals are, but it can still be hard to read from there. i dont know what you paid for it ($25?) but its not worth it. use the lock/unlock output to trigger a relay and drive a + or - signal and you are done.

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profuse007

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Posted: May 19, 2004 at 3:24 AM / IP Logged

sroth140 wrote:

im all for helping people but...

i have access to anything DEI related, but i dont share it. i will still help people but i will not link right to a fax document or post an entire vehicles wiring diagram. >>"i didnt always have access and i had to test things for my self."<<

-am sorry to say but it sounds like jealousy.

-if youre a good installer and make a lot money, you shouldnt let these things bother ya.

www.7thgencivic.com has Techsoft diagram for free, need to register for SN.

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