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swerks

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Posted: July 30, 2007 at 4:32 PM / IP Logged

just a bit of an opinion question whats better taping rs harnesses or twisting with drill.

my moneys on taping, i dont see auto manufactures twisting their harnesses. also i believe twisting puts an awful lot of undue stress on the wires and connectors

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swerks

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Posted: July 30, 2007 at 4:33 PM / IP Logged

also i think its a lot easier to take your knife and open a taped harness rather than untwist one if troubleshooting is required

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I do both. I twist up wires going to the same area of the vehicle and then I tape over it.

If I had to choose one, I would go with tape just to cover the colored wires to make the install look more OEM.

I wouldn't worry too much about the stress on the wire, unless you are twisting the wires super tight!

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Posted: July 30, 2007 at 5:21 PM / IP Logged

i say tape if its under the dash.if you are just wiring things in the door, you can ziptie the wire to other factory wire. (i just leave the color exposed since a thief wouldnt take out a door panel)plus, troubleshooting is much easier.

I rarely twist wires.

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Posted: July 30, 2007 at 5:28 PM / IP Logged

Twist and tape. Manufacture's dont twist them because installers have specific ways they prep their own harnesses for specific cars/trucks.

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swerks

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Posted: July 30, 2007 at 5:52 PM / IP Logged

i would say that auto makers dont twist because it makes digging wires out difficult.

i have trobleshot numerous installations where an installer twisted harnesses and it interferes with the pins making proper contactwitk the rs, so i believe extra stress is an issue

Steve Sverdahl

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Posted: August 10, 2007 at 12:41 AM / IP Logged

i do like to twist, and then tape as well. However, it is very important to hold the wires you are twisting atleat 1" from the plug so you dont have to risk damaging or pulling on the pins. Then I tape the wires so that if a thief were to look under the dash, they wouldnt have a "quick hot wire" guide to stealing the car.

Just my .02

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When you twist wires, specially if your cutting and using your own wire, you use more wire. The twisted wire needs more wire to cover the same distance as non-twisted. I know, I know.....it's just a few inches..... x's how many jobs? If you run your own shop, and don't work for someone else! (every inch count's twist or tape harnesses -- posted image.

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Posted: August 10, 2007 at 10:30 AM / IP Logged

KarTuneMan wrote:

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Yeah but zip ties and tape don't grow on trees either twist or tape harnesses -- posted image.

. I do both just depends on the situation.

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Posted: August 10, 2007 at 3:39 PM / IP Logged

When you start to do a bunch of mobile electronic installs, you'll have you cut back on efforts and supplies to adjust proficiency. This method of running wires is not a necessity; its just wasting efforts. If you start your own shop and buying supplies for your employers, everything counts, like Kartoonman said.

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