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bigjohnny 
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I'm getting a little temp gauge but its 5V not 12V, so Will it be easier to use a resistor to power it, or is there a 5v power source somewhere in the dash of a 1996 mercury cougar that I can tap into?
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Do you know how much current the device needs?
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I'm not sure, it isn't listed, but I can't imagine it needing a lot of current.
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You can't use a resistor to drop voltage - resistors resist current.

Go to Radioshack and buy a 7805.  It is good for 1A, although that will be way more then you need.  They are about $.99 from memory.

There are three pins on the 7805 - in, gnd, and out.  Connect the in to ignition voltage, connect the gnd to gnd, and the out is your output.  Technically, you should put a capacitor on the input (10uf or so) and on the output (0.1uf or so).  The caps will help stablize the voltage - they arn't 100% required but if your device is sensitive to voltage flucuations you should add them.  For exact capacictor values consult the 7805 datasheet.

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would the displays ground and the regulator ground be connected together, or would it be better to connect the regulator ground and display ground separately?
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You can connect them together or apart, it doesn't matter, they just both need to be connected!
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KPierson wrote:

You can't use a resistor to drop voltage - resistors resist current.

Go to Radioshack and buy a 7805.  It is good for 1A, although that will be way more then you need.  They are about $.99 from memory.

There are three pins on the 7805 - in, gnd, and out.  Connect the in to ignition voltage, connect the gnd to gnd, and the out is your output.  Technically, you should put a capacitor on the input (10uf or so) and on the output (0.1uf or so).  The caps will help stablize the voltage - they arn't 100% required but if your device is sensitive to voltage flucuations you should add them.  For exact capacictor values consult the 7805 datasheet.

what exactly am i looking for in the datasheet to determine cap values?
EDIT
nvm, I found this at the bottom of the sheet.
Note 2: All characteristics are measured with capacitor across the input of 0.22 μF, and a capacitor across the output of 0.1μF. All characteristics except noise voltage
and ripple rejection ratio are measured using pulse techniques (tw £ 10 ms, duty cycle £ 5%). Output voltage changes due to changes in internal temperature must
be taken into account separately.
Note 3: Absolute Maximum Ratings indicate
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so how do I wire the cap?
do I put power to one lead of the cap, and connect the other lead to the regulator input, or would it be one lead of the cap to power, and one to the regulator ground?
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Both caps need to be grounded and the other end of the cap needs to be connected to the correct power pin on the regulator.
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So would it look something like this really doodiety diagram?
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