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dragunbayne 
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Well, I am working on redoing the system in my car and I am starting with subs. I am custom building the boxes. I have been testing a lot of subs in WINISD and I think I have decided on the Elemental Designs 13OV.2. With the box I have designed it seems to have the best mix of SPL and group delay, especially for the price. I plan on running 2 in seperate boxes. My specs, if you would like to check it out, are: 1.4 ft^3 box tuned to 28 Hz, with a port 6"x2" and 26.48 inches long (port will be external), being driven by 600W. If anyone has any input or suggestions on a different sub I am open. I have tried subs from JL, JBL, Orion, etc. and nothing has really compared for the price. I am open to 10", 12", or 15" but I would like to keep box size to 1.75 ft^3 or less. Also I am looking for a minimum freq. of 40 HZ, 30-35 preferred, up to 80 Hz. for the range. Thank you for any help.
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I have a 19Ov.2 in 6 cubes at 40Hz...love it.
1.4 at 28hz is fine...but tuning to 28Hz isn't really necessary. lowest I'd tune is 30Hz and I rarely do that.   The 13Ov.2 work well in bigger than "spec" boxes also.
Are you thinking of going with two 13Ov.2s with 600 total???
dragunbayne 
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By the way the other 2 sub I found that I was greatly considering but just don't seem as good are the Image Dynamics ID12 and I found a pair of HCCA 10s (1999 version) for a good price. I like the HCCAs but it seems Orion lied about the sensitivity according to WINISD or I would get those. They are 12Db higher according to the manual than WINISD says they are. If they really were they would get as loud as I desire and I would get them.
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600 Watts to each one.
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You're right, it's even better tuned to 30Hz in a 1.6 ft^3 box.
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Pretty much every driver I have entered into WinISD does not have the same sensitivity/SPL rating as the "manufactures" specs.
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As with what I've done but 12Db seemed excessive. Which is sad considering it's Orion I wouldn't expect them to over rate by that much.
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Well it seems with your advice the 13Ov.2 is exactly what I want and not just the best overall compromise. Yes it will be 600 Watts each powered by 2 Pioneer PRS-D200Ts. I like the Premier series HUs and Amps. I have one of their HUs in my car right now and it's way better than the JVC I have in my last car.
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600 watts is perfect per 13Ov.2
Don't look into the spl rating much.
http://stereointegrity.com/docs/Efficiency.pdf
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Well, I guess that will be the route I go. My next problem is should I spray the inside with sound deadener or fill it with polyfill or anything like that?
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