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rc26142 
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I have a Fosgate P1 10" sub that I would like to
Put in a ported box. What's your input on this sub in this type of enclosure?
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The P1 10 inch is a great subwoofer. It wont be "powerful" by any means, but paired with a good amplifier it will add good definition to your stock system.
I had a 10 inch P1 installed in my car running off a T500-1bd amplifier at 4 ohms in a small bandpass box and it was enough to surprise people that it was just a little 10.
Honestly, for a subwoofer that small I would go with bandpass or sealed because if you do ported you would have to find a box tuned high as 10 inch subwoofers are not made to hit low notes. Especially this one.
Also, bandpass will allow for a better range of frequencies and there wont be as steep of a slope as there is with ported. Ported boxes are good, but you notice when it hits the note it is tuned for its much louder.
As for the subwoofer itself, its quality stuff. Had mine running roughly 230wrms from the amplifier and while it couldnt handle full volume very well, it ran like a champ and still is. The coil can handle the power, but the structure is not built for it.
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c280bump wrote:
Also, bandpass will allow for a better range of frequencies

What do you mean by "better"?  Bandpass enclosures have the worst frequency response of any alignment.

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To the OP:  Just follow the user guide.  It calls for a small vented system of around 0.75 cuft.  Do that.  Tune it the way they recommend.  Don't over power it.
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DYohn wrote:

c280bump wrote:
Also, bandpass will allow for a better range of frequencies

What do you mean by "better"?  Bandpass enclosures have the worst frequency response of any alignment.

Are you sure? In my experience, bandpass with smaller subwoofers sounds better than a low-port tune (most pre-fabs are from 32-45hz) and this subwoofer really shines above 50hz.
You may be right, but Id still suggest bandpass or sealed for this subwoofer.
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(1) RF T500-1bd running half ohm
Stock electrical system with 5 gauge power wire and alternator/ground power wire upgrade
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c280bump wrote:
DYohn wrote:

c280bump wrote:
Also, bandpass will allow for a better range of frequencies

What do you mean by "better"?  Bandpass enclosures have the worst frequency response of any alignment.

Are you sure? In my experience, bandpass with smaller subwoofers sounds better than a low-port tune (most pre-fabs are from 32-45hz) and this subwoofer really shines above 50hz.
You may be right, but Id still suggest bandpass or sealed for this subwoofer.

Uh... yes.  I'm sure.  Do some research.  fosgate p1 subwoofer -- posted image.  Bandpass enclosures have severely limited frequency response, although they can be made to get louder than other alignments with the same driver.  As far as this woofer, do what the manufacturer recommends in the user guide that came with the woofer.  There is nothing to be gained from trying to push an inexpensive woofer like this beyond what it was designed to do.  Nothing but distortion, that is.

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DYohn wrote:
c280bump wrote:
DYohn wrote:

c280bump wrote:
Also, bandpass will allow for a better range of frequencies

What do you mean by "better"?  Bandpass enclosures have the worst frequency response of any alignment.

Are you sure? In my experience, bandpass with smaller subwoofers sounds better than a low-port tune (most pre-fabs are from 32-45hz) and this subwoofer really shines above 50hz.
You may be right, but Id still suggest bandpass or sealed for this subwoofer.

Uh... yes.  I'm sure.  Do some research.  fosgate p1 subwoofer -- posted image.  Bandpass enclosures have severely limited frequency response, although they can be made to get louder than other alignments with the same driver.  As far as this woofer, do what the manufacturer recommends in the user guide that came with the woofer.  There is nothing to be gained from trying to push an inexpensive woofer like this beyond what it was designed to do.  Nothing but distortion, that is.

Well, being that I have this subwoofer and have for about 2 years now, I can say that bandpass or sealed is where it will perform best. Bandpass will make it much louder than sealed, but it did not sound as good in a ported enclosure.
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(1) RF T500-1bd running half ohm
Stock electrical system with 5 gauge power wire and alternator/ground power wire upgrade
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Posted: September 01, 2012 at 8:40 AM / IP Logged  
If all you want is loud, sure a bandpass can get loud.  Like I said at the very beginning: follow the manufacturer's recommendations.  The user manual says put this speaker into a sealed or a ported enclosure and it gives recommended specs.  Use them.  The OP said he wanted a ported enclosure.  Go for it.
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c280bump wrote:
DYohn wrote:

c280bump wrote:
Also, bandpass will allow for a better range of frequencies

What do you mean by "better"?  Bandpass enclosures have the worst frequency response of any alignment.

Are you sure? In my experience, bandpass with smaller subwoofers sounds better than a low-port tune (most pre-fabs are from 32-45hz) and this subwoofer really shines above 50hz.
You may be right, but Id still suggest bandpass or sealed for this subwoofer.
the word "bandpass" by definition limits the frequency response above and below the tuning frequency. above 50Hz is getting close to not even being "sub bass" which is what "sub woofers" are meant to produce.
with that said, everybody has their own definition of what sounds good so ill just leave it at that.
c280bump 
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50hz is fine. In fact, you will find alot of songs bass are around 45-65hz. And while everyone does have their own definition of what sounds good, some subwoofers perform better at different frequencies than others. In general, smaller subwoofers do not reproduce low frequencies very well if at all in most cases because of the small cone area which is why I do not recommend ported for this subwoofer because unless you build it and tune it yourself, it wont perform well with a factory low tuned port that will find with most pre-fab enclosures.
8 speaker stock bose system
(1) 15 Fi BL dual 1 ohm
(1) RF T500-1bd running half ohm
Stock electrical system with 5 gauge power wire and alternator/ground power wire upgrade
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