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Explorer154 
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I am putting speakers in my car with power handling of 200 watts. (Max power handling is 1000 watts).

I don't car about loudness, I only car about the quality of the sound. It just so happens that these speakers are rated at 200 watts.

Please recommed what is the mimum power that I can get away with making these speakers sound great.

The speakers that I am getting are morels and my "budget" is pretty much "exhausted".

Thanks in advance.

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what is the sensivitivity?    you can figure from there approx what you will need,     let us know what model and what the ssensivitivy is.
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What model Morel speakers are you buying??
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As a HUGE fan of all that is Morel, I can tell you the more power you have, the better they will sound, without exception.
We do need more information, however, to tell you "how much" you will need. I am personally using the old MW-162, rated 120RMS/1000peak, and I am running 370wpc to them, dedicated. My doors are bi-amped and bi-wired, with active crossovers. They are perfectly happy taking the 370 watts I am throwing at them, too.
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Let me start off by saying: Thanks for all your help.

Having said that they are: Morel Elate SW 6:

Nominal impedance: 4 ohm, Power handling 180 Watts, Transient power handling: 1000 W, Sensitivity (2.83 V/1M) 89 dB, Frequency Response: 25 - 4000 Hz. It has the MT-23 Tweeter ( impedance 6 ohm), power handing 130 W, and max Transient power handling 350 W, snsitivity (2.83 V/1M) 91 dB, Frequency response: 1400-25000Hz.

I was thinking of the alpine : MRVF 545  ;;;;  4 channel  125 x 4 ohms. Run each channel separetly therefore supply , I suppose, 125 watts per speaker,---Thanks

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A bi-amped system with Morels is a spectacular option. The tweeters will receive a bit less than 125w, probably around 100 watts. It will not matter, though, being as their sensitivity is hotter than the woofers. Set your crossover for around 2K, both hi- (for the tweeter) and lo- (for the woofer) pass, and if possible, apply an 80Hz hi-pass to the woofer, so it won't flap. The 24Hz low frequency number stated will NEVER happen in a door, without flappin' like the dickens.
With a low cut in frequency like 2K for the tweeter, it will be imperative that you set your gains correctly, -make sure you stay well away from clipping! - a crossover point like this will lower the power handling appreciably.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Is the alpine MRVF 545  a bi amped system that you are reffering too? And if so, it sounds like I'm ok?

Ps: I am putting in xtreme Dynamats

Thanks.....................How much power is required? -- posted image.

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Any 4 channel amp will allow bi-amping, so, yes, the Alpine will work...
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Sorry to bother you again,

But what does bi-amping mean, so I make sure I bi-amp. Remember it is only 4 channel and one channel going to each speaker ( two channels to each woofer and two channels going to each twetter).

Thanks again

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That IS bi-amping. Effectively running one channel to each driver, with either active (preferred) or passive frequency dividing networks (crossovers). 4 drivers, 4 channels of amplifier. This is exactly what you have.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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