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eklipz17 
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Posted: July 08, 2005 at 12:37 AM / IP Logged  

Currently I got a set of Kicker CVR 12's, dvc. They're running on a Jensen LXA300 amp. Pretty old and crappy, so it's time for an upgrade (after using the amp for a few years lol) They're also in a sealed box.

I did some research recently and I'm gonna go with a JBL GTO1201.1 amp. 787watts x1 @ 4ohms. The subs are rated 800watts RMS total. So I'm thinking since it's for daily driving, that'll be plenty. The amp will be around $300 including s&h on ebay. Would anyone recomend this amp, or know a better/cheaper one?

While I'm asking for advice,  I'm gonna upgrade the door speakers. I found some CDT EF-61. Would anyone recomend CDT's or something better/cheaper? I just need some extra opinions before I go making final decisions. Of course i'll be adding a 2nd amp for these. I'll probably go with an Alpine, Kicker, Fosgate, etc. amp. One of the good brands since it doesnt have to be all that great for the components. (Unless anyone has other advice please let me know)

I'm sure if the amp upgrade, I'll be needing a few layers of deadening since the amp I got now does alot of rattling. Can anyone point me to a site that sells some cheap but good deadening? The only thing I've found is B-Quiet.

I'll be getting a 4gawg wire/amp kit, but what I need to know is, whats a good size speaker wire to use? For the subs and components?

So all in all, do you think I'm going in the right path for a good sounding system for daily driving? Money isn't an issue but I dont want to spend a fortune. If anyone else needs any other info, let me know.

Thanks.

sedate 
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Posted: July 08, 2005 at 1:44 AM / IP Logged  

thezeb.com's special on EF-series componets is probably one of the best deals around, 'specially for $200.  CDT stuff is absolutely awesome.  

Speaking of thezeb.com.... this little amp has been real popular lately..

http://www.thezeb.com/p-USacoustics-USX-2050-2-Channel-Amplifier-105480.htm

You couldn't do worse for twice the money.  I just bought one.

As far as a JBL amp?  I'd get behind the amp but not the source.  For my cash, I'd drop a little more and remove that old adage.. eh.. "caveat emptor" ..... on the other hand if you don't know what that means you prolly won't care anyway eh?!

http://www.cardomain.com/item/JBLGTO12011II

Nice amp.  I've always liked JBL stuff.

Speaker wire size doesn't matter at all.  I'd link to calculator but I'm getting tired.  Trust me.

4-gauge wire sounds like it'd run those two amps lickety-split eh?

Yea man that system will sound great.  Like Tony the Tiger on Nickelodeon.  That good eh?  As good as Frosted Flakes. 

*Great*

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Posted: July 08, 2005 at 8:47 AM / IP Logged  
Got to sleep, sedate... I got this one LOL
Here is a link to what sedate was referring to... This is a handy link for other calculators also.
BQuiet is good stuff, and cheaper than Dynamat, from what I hear. Those are the two brands I would recommend...
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Blowntweeters 
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Posted: July 08, 2005 at 10:42 AM / IP Logged  
check out www.ikesound.com they have some good stuff and some crap you can get alpine and kicker stuff cheep
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eklipz17 
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Posted: July 10, 2005 at 3:26 PM / IP Logged  

Ok, here's some more questions I'm concerned about.

If I get that USacoustics amp for the components, should I get another amp kit for it, or how would that work? (I've never hooked up 2 amps before other than seeing people run 2 different kits to the battery). I plan on putting the 2nd amp beside the 1st amp in the trunk. So running speaker wire to the amp in the trunk sounds like a pain in the @$$.

If I had two amps, do you think a batter/alt upgrade would be needed?

IMO I like having sound coming from the rear, so I gotta have speakers in the rear. I could remove the 6.5 speakers in the rear and just use the holes for bass to travel through. But if I left my pioneer speakers in the rear and just keep them ran to the deck, would that be ok or would it ruin the sound? (Which I rather do) or should I get some better/cheaper speakers and just run them to the deck?

I think that's all the questions I have.

Thanks again.

Blowntweeters 
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Posted: July 10, 2005 at 3:41 PM / IP Logged  
get a 4 channel amp and run all your mains off that and as far as the 2 amps use a larger power and ground setup and use a powerplant or fused power blocks and that will give you the ablity top hook up every thing and have the correct size wire running and be sure to wire your voice coils to a total of 4 ohms
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eklipz17 
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Posted: July 10, 2005 at 3:56 PM / IP Logged  

Do you have a link to where it shows me how to took up 2 amps, and add a distro. block?

and i dont think theres a point in running my rear speakers off an amp. so that 2channel us acoustics amp is perfect for those cdts. when i get it all installed and i dont see a point or hear the rears, i'll just unhook them.

eklipz17 
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Posted: July 10, 2005 at 4:01 PM / IP Logged  

Here's what I got down so far that I'm getting.

JBL GTO amp (for subs)

4gawg wire kit for JBL amp
12ga/16ga speaker wire for subs & cdt components
USacoustics amp for cdt components
B-Quiet deadening (enough for doors, trunk, and trunk lid)
CDT EF-61 components
and right now I have an Alpine CDE-9845 headunit. I "think" it's one of the low end decks. I was looking at a CDA-9830. CDA-9847. CDA-9851.
Is the one I got now good enough, or should I get a better one. I already have a friend who wants to buy the one I have now off me, so getting a new/better one wouldn't be a problem. I'm just curious.

So am I missing anything?

Thanks again.

eklipz17 
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Posted: July 10, 2005 at 5:08 PM / IP Logged  

Another thing I'm confused about, is the wiring option for a 4ohm load.

http://www.lightningaudio.com/latech/wiringwizard/2_4ohmDVC_4ohm.gif

For the single wire ran to the neg. to pos. is it "dot to no dot" or "dot to dot" ?

I thought it was "dot to not dot" but I've heard both now.

eklipz17 
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Posted: July 10, 2005 at 8:39 PM / IP Logged  
anyone?
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