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pmendoza408 
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 I tries looking for something similar to this but i was not able to find it. I would appreciate the help thank you. I wanted to know how i can figure out if i need two car batteries for the sound quality of my bass to be better aswell as my highs. Currently i have two 12 inch audiobahns (1100 rms) 4 6.5 pioneers (120 rms i think) 2 6x9 boston acoustic and six tweeters. My highs are powered by a 600.4 pioneer amp and my bass with a audiobahn 2200hct (1600watts) i currently have a hifonics 2 farad cap. I wanted to know if i should add a second battery.

Also my question would be what is better yellow top optima batteries or SVR batteries>?

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Yes, a second battery would help you. Your alternator will thank you!!!

As far as battery brands go, I've had optima and svr, and personally I prefer svr batteries. Look for a 75-12 series or a 100-12 series to add in place of your cap. The 100-12 series battery can be had for about $229 at an svr dealer.

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The purpose of a second battery is to be able to run your stereo while the car is off. If your alternator is not strong enough, a second battery won't help, it may actually hurt, because your alternator has to charge 2 batteries back to full instead of one.  If you don't play your stereo much with the car off, don't waste the money on a battery, and save up for a HO Alternator.
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ddsubman 
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j_darling2007 wrote:
The purpose of a second battery is to be able to run your stereo while the car is off. If your alternator is not strong enough, a second battery won't help, it may actually hurt, because your alternator has to charge 2 batteries back to full instead of one.  If you don't play your stereo much with the car off, don't waste the money on a battery, and save up for a HO Alternator.

That's not entirely true. Sure a HO alternator is better than adding batteries, but thats' not what he asked. A spare battery is not for just running your system with your car off.  Almost every true spl competitor (high wattage classes) runs at least one extra battery whether they have an HO alternator or not. And we never, ever, run our systems with the vehicle off unless it is hooked to a high amp charger. I have 4 SVR batteries in my yukon right now, powering a 6000 watt rms system without a HO alternator and don't even experience any significant light dimming at high volumes. I have run my systems this way for many years, and have yet had to replace an alternator because of it.....I've also left my headlights on overnight in a drunken stupor and when I got up the next morning my truck would still start. Let's see a replacement alternator do that!

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pmendoza408 
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thank you for the info. i will definatly put a second battery in my car. i also wanted to know if i should use a zero gauge to connect battery from under the hood to the one for the beat or is a 4 gauge good enough? well thank you for all the help
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From Car Audio Magazine:

"Batteries are rated by the amount of cold-cranking amperes they produce. A small import car is likely to have a battery rated at 500 CCA. A large battery would have a CCA rating of 1,000. How big a battery should you install? Most experts say get one as the available space will allow. If your vehicle's charging system is significantly short on amperes, then adding a bigger battery will only create additional problems. Adding a second battery is an option, but is not recommended for a variety of reasons.

"I think multiple batteries are a bad idea for vehicles that are daily drivers," says Jeff Triplett, director of technical services for Memphis Car Audio. "A second battery has to be charged by the alternator just like the primary battery, so you're just creating more work for the alternator. If the motor is off and the system is running off battery power, the multiple batteries are OK. However, daily drivers simply have little to gain from multiple batteries."

Another strike against having multiple batteries is the safety issue. Batteries can be dangerous if improperly installed, so great care should be taken if you are thinking of putting in a battery in a non-stock location. Consult a qualified installer if you feel you must have a second or third extra battery."

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What is the factory alt rating on the yukon??

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multiple batteries does nothing but draw more current away from your system trying to charge two batteries when your car is on, but it does help when your car is off -- aka no use of alternator. ask just about anyone in the forum.
pmendoza408 
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so by this posts are you saying that by adding a second battery i could be doing more harm to my vehicle than help>? i am a bit lost because they say that for the car being off it is ok but when it is on it strains the alternator, so what is a fair answer? I would just like to get the best sound quality and stop my lights from being strobe lights when the bass hits.
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Yes, adding a second batery will just put more strain on the alternator. your best bet would to upgrade the alternator and the big 3 wiring, put a redtop under the hood and if your still having any issues, add a yellow top.
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