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Posted: July 13, 2006 at 10:48 PM / IP Logged  

Here's my current setup:

  • RF 400a4 running ADS 336is.2
  • RF 800a2 running 2 RF T112D4

The 800a2 is running 400 Watts @ 2 ohm per channel to the subs. The subs just pull way more than the amp can handle...plus it gets hot enough it could brand you if you sat on it. I was thinking about going to an Audiobahn A1300hct in order to give the subs the 1200 watts they need.

My question: Would it be better (SQ wise and reliability wise) to run 2 600 watt amps @ 2 ohms or one amp that could do the 600 in stereo @ 2 ohms? Also...I understand not eveyone here is a fan of Audiobahn...what other amps would be suggested at the same price range?

Thanks.

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Posted: July 13, 2006 at 11:55 PM / IP Logged  
Please don't go Audiobahn if your looking for quality...plus I doubt that amp will really push 1200 watts.
Whats your budget for an amp??
What enclosure is your subs in???
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Posted: July 14, 2006 at 12:50 AM / IP Logged  

What you have here is a darn good class AB amp that is doing all that it can. 99% of these amps (the 800a2) produced in excess of 1000w rms into a 4 ohm mono load. This is how you should have your amp operating ideally but 2 ohm stereo is just fine as well.

Audioburn, just say no, walk away, no glance backs to see if it is following you either. If you give it a chance it will hound you worse than a tire biter ever could. There are just far better amplifiers available on the market today. Want a big amp that has some real balls, find a Eclipse DA7232 or a MTX 81001 for example. You have lots of options depending on your budget. It looks like a fine system you have, don't desicrate it with inferior chrome plated turds. (with flames).

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Posted: July 14, 2006 at 1:05 AM / IP Logged  

I'm looking at somewhere in the $500-$550 range. I'm currently running the subs in a sealed 2.6cu" partitioned box. They pound pretty hard (even in the benz 300e with the gas tank in the way). I am thinking about redoing the box for 1.75 cu" each ported. I may wait as the benz is on its last legs and can't afford a trans and A/C fix.

I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and fork over a few more dollars to get the wattage I need to push these drivers.

What about Diamond Audio and Digital Audio?

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Posted: July 14, 2006 at 1:31 AM / IP Logged  

Dude, change the box first, your subs are going to come alive. Rewire them at the same time to this method. Then and only then look at a different amp.

Option 2 (series/parallel) = 4 ohm load
Voice coils wired in series, speakers wired in parallel
Recommended Amplifier: Stable at 4, 2, or 1 ohm mono
1 ohm vs 2 ohm -- posted image.

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Posted: July 14, 2006 at 1:45 AM / IP Logged  

In rewiring them to 4 ohms, I'll be pushing 200 W each to the subs. Would the lower wattage negate the affects of the ported box? Or is that for when I look for a 4 ohm 1200W amp (or 2 600W)?

I definitely want to build the ported box. I saw the plans that RF had for the T112D4 that used a 2.75cu' box per driver with a 3"x15.25"x29.5" port. The only description was that it is LOUD. That would be fun to build just for the hell of it. The box would never be able to reside anywhere but the garage though.

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Posted: July 14, 2006 at 11:53 AM / IP Logged  
Rewiring to the method I listed above means that you are now bridging your amp for it's maximum output. Again as I mentioned, this amp when bridged into a mono 4 ohm load produced in excess of 1000w rms in 99% of the amplifiers that Rockford made. This means for ease of math here, 500w rms into each sub and 250w rms into each voice coil.
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Posted: July 14, 2006 at 12:11 PM / IP Logged  
forbidden wrote:
Want a big amp that has some real balls, find a Eclipse DA7232 or a MTX 81001 for example.
Or the mono version, (I think it's the DA7121)... 2kW into 2 ohms... Should do PLENTY, and it'll be close to your desired price range, maybe a little bit more.
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inferior chrome plated turds. (with flames).
Funny... still laughing to myself. ;)
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Posted: July 14, 2006 at 3:54 PM / IP Logged  

forbidden wrote:
Rewiring to the method I listed above means that you are now bridging your amp for it's maximum output. Again as I mentioned, this amp when bridged into a mono 4 ohm load produced in excess of 1000w rms in 99% of the amplifiers that Rockford made. This means for ease of math here, 500w rms into each sub and 250w rms into each voice coil.

Thanks! That helps a bunch. The info is greatly appreciated. Always more to learn!

The Flakman
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Posted: July 14, 2006 at 11:24 PM / IP Logged  

Quick question: how much money does the DA7232 typically run for? Can't find it anywhere on the net.

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