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strykergsr 
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Ok I've been reading the ground stickys and I think that MIGHT be my problem here but I don't know where at.

I've tried everything I can think of from the articles. Basically

-There is a whine noise that varies with alternator when car is on. When car is on ACC the whine is still there though.

noise is also present when I hit the brake pedal.

-There is no noise with speakers hooked up straight to HU, only when the speakers are hooked up through the amp.

-I got rid of the factory ground and power wires and hooked them up straight to battery/chassis (for HU)

-The RCAs are on the drivers side of the car and the power wire is on the passenger side. These are OFC Stinger shielded wires.

- I even switched my HU to my old one that never had this problem and it still had the noise.

The only thing I haven't tried is grounding the RCA cables or whatever because I'm still not sure how to do it. which is correct, ground them to HU chassis or car chassis? I've heard both sides. and mainly do I cut the actual end of the RCA cable where the plastic covers the RCA tip or do i just strip some wire towards the HU end of the cable and wrap wire around it?

Should I even worry about the RCAs or is it a ground problem. I've checked all grounds with no result.

Thanks to all

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Is the whine heard at the same time as the fuel pump relay?

Did you try disconnecting the antenna?

Are the underhood grounds in prime condition? At battery, alternator, firewall, engine, etc?

Did you try disconnecting RCA's at amp? Result?

Did you try running RCA's outside the car? (for test purposes only - obviously)

Sometimes a ground loop isolator on the RCA's work.

When you hit the brakes I understand that you don't mean that it whines but that there is a pop, is that so? If so, add a cap to the brakeswitch wire.

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strykergsr 
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thanks for the reply

"Is the whine heard at the same time as the fuel pump relay?"

Umm, it's constant, so no matter how long I leave the car on (ACC or with the engine on) it always whines

"When you hit the brakes I understand that you don't mean that it whines but that there is a pop, is that so?"

Yeah

"Did you try disconnecting the antenna?"

The antenna was initially connected and the HU was installed in the dash, i pulled the HU and removed the antenna and even replaced the deck, none of these fixed the noise

"Are the underhood grounds in prime condition? At battery, alternator, firewall, engine, etc?"

I have not yet upgraded all of the big 3, but i did replace the battery-chassis wire with no results.

"Did you try disconnecting RCA's at amp? Result?"

Yes, no noise. No sound either lol.
I then reconnected and disconnected at HU, no noise. I used a pair of muting plugs and still no noise

"Did you try running RCA's outside the car? (for test purposes only - obviously)"

No. Unfortunately I don't have an extra pair. What would be the easiest way to go about this as the RCAs are already installed.

Sometimes a ground loop isolator on the RCA's work.

Yeh I thought about that but I still am not sure if it is the RCAs that are the problem.

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What brand is your head unit? 
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strykergsr 
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its a kenwood dpx701

i also used my old one, a panasonic

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I have had success by grounding the outer portion of an rca to the chassis of the radio with Pioneer and recently kenwood headunits. It is a simple enough test.
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yeh but i don't think it's the headunit because i switched to my old one and nothing changed. i never had noise before. but then again i don't have noise unless the speakers are powered by the amp. (the fronts were unpowered and rears were powered and fronts indicated no noise) thats why i think it has to be the RCAs since they weren't used before. but location and quality of RCAs is good. i don't know how to 'ground' them though
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also this is a 1995 Acura Integra
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    You really need to try what Sarcomax suggested.
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update: i hooked up a portable cd player to the amps inputs and no noise.

it has to be the HU now. i've already grounded to chassis and powered to battery and the only thing left is to ground the RCAs I can't find any thread that describes the process

anyone? thanks

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