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razorbacx 
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I want to add a sub to my existing system, however I have a unique set up and need some advice before proceeding. My current set up is as follows:

Factory HU, Line out Converter (LOC), USB4065 4 channel x 65 wrms amp, Infinity 6012i 6.5's in the doors and MB Quart DKC169 6x9's in the rear deck of my 05 Honda Accord LX 4dr. According to my amp's manual I can add a sub in Tri-Mode, but I am unclear how or if I need to run the sub's speaker wires thru the LOC. Because I did not have the time to do my own installation I do not know how the shop actually wired up my system as I have no experience with LOC's, so any knowledge that you can pass my way would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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The LOC gets the full signal from the original speaker wires and feeds the signal to the USacoustics four channel amp.  The amp has a pass-thru feature that will allow you to pick up that full range signal and send in on to another amp (daisy chain).  Your sub amp will get its signal this way.

I highly recommend adding a class D mono amp to power your sub.  Don't expect miracles out of your 4065 amplifier;  it is fully loaded as it is.  It gets pretty warm, doesn't it?  I have the model USC4065 myself, and the pass-thru is two jacks labelled "OUT".

Otherwise, you have to fully understand how tri-mode works:  http://www.bcae1.com/trimodpd.htm

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jmelton86 
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Is that considered tri-mode -with a 4channel (front stereo, rear bridged)?
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razorbacx 
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I've already got my system installed, which was accomplished locally. They did a pretty poor job of wiring and now I'm faced with either living with it or fixing it myself. I'm not clear as to how these lineout converters interface with the existing factory wiring and need your help to determine how to re-wire my system. From what I can tell from the supplied diagram I got with my Scosche FAI-3 loc the speaker wiring from my factory harness should go directly into the loc and from there I'm lost. I'm sure that there has got to be a splice point for each speaker wire. Can someone please walk me thru this?

Thanks in advance.

Razorbacx

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You need to post year make and model........
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You will need to splice into your speaker wires, no need to cut them and you will not be plugging any type of factory plug into the LOC. You can catch the speaker wires either behind your radio, running boards, kick panels, etc. its really up to you. If that was already installed by the shop though they should have tapped into the correct wires...hopefully. If your LOC does not have wires coming off it from scoshe (sp) then just take ordinary speaker wire and hook that up then tap into your speaker wires
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razorbacx 
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Posted: October 19, 2007 at 9:58 AM / IP Logged  

Mike, thanks for the answer. I assumed that was the case, but had no real clue as to what I might find once I started tearing things out.

I do have another question with regards to LOC's. If I want to add additional speakers to my system, but only have a 4channel LOC, can I tap into one of the other speaker wires and then run that to my amp? I was thinking about adding an 8" sub to help round out things and my thoughts are to tap into my rear speaker wires (+ from one speaker and the - from the other) and then into my sub. Will that work?

2005 Honda Accord LX 4 dr / Factory HU / Infinity 6012i 6.5's in the doors / MB Quart DKC169 6x9's in the rear deck / US Acoustics USB4065 4 channel amp running the show - adding a 4 ohm MTX 8" sub

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Posted: October 19, 2007 at 10:12 AM / IP Logged  

No.  The LOC gets the signal via speaker level (high  level).  Your 4 channel LOC should be connected to the factory speakers at all four (front and rear) locations.  The LOC converts this high level signal to line level and supplies the amplifier with four inputs...front L and R, back L and R.  It is now up to the amplifier to supply power to the speakers.  The four channel amp will provide for all four front and rear speakers.

To add a subwoofer, get another amplifier.  Connect the second amp to the full range line output provided by the four channel amp.  Then set the LP filter on the sub amp (HP filter is used on the four channel amp).

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razorbacx 
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stevdart, thanks for the quick response.
dtundra578 
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So if you are going to use an LOC you basically HAVE to run to a 4 ch. first and then from there to a sub amp? I can't just add the sub without re-wiring my stock (POS) speakers?  I was saving that project for later on in life....thanks
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