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jasoncw

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Posted: December 17, 2007 at 7:37 PM / IP Logged

Hi everyone. After much reading up on this forum, I found tons of info on how to install my RS. I have done a few simple 12V wiring, but not too often. I just want to make sure I have everything covered.

I would greatly appreciate if someone could take a look at how I plan to wire it up and give me any feedback. I used this PDF file (link found on this forum) to determine the correct vehicle wiring. I also verified they are accurate based on my service manual. This file is the Excel file that shows how I plan to wire the RS.

As you can see in the file, I think the only add'l relays I need are the 2 for the door locks. Also, I'm unsure of how to hook up a couple of the wires.

TIA for any input.

Jason

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Posted: December 17, 2007 at 8:26 PM / IP Logged

If your truck is equipped with a factory alarm you might consider using the PURPLE / light blue wire to both arm and disarm the factory alarm in addition to locking and unlocking the doors. Take a look at the factory alarm arm info at the bottom of the link you posted, it describes it in detail. You will have to tie in the factory alarm disarm wire to the unlock relay as well. If I were doing the job I would also hook up the factory alarm rearm wire to the lock relay. This would re-arm the factory alarm if the remote start were to time out.

If your truck has gray colored keys you will need a bypass module.

You need to power the pink/white and the pink light/green as ignition. You also need to power the dark blue and 16ga pink / YELLOW as accessory. This means you will have to use at least one relay for the additional accessory wire. Use the low current orange accessory output to trigger your relay for this.

The WHITE/ red and WHITE/ blue wires would not be required since you are using the 561r's remotes. These are used to activate the RS via an outside source.

The RED / white is for a second channel output, used typically for a trunk release.

As far as the parking light output is concerned you can either split it and send it to each side for positive trigger, use a relay and a 590ohm resistor to the parking wire at the switch, or just take a negative trigger out to the relay box under the dash. When you turn on the parking lights in the truck it activates a relay in that box up front. If I remember correctly it is the second relay from the front of the box. Take a look at that relay and you will see it is a standard bosch style relay. Use your probe to find the pin that goes to ground when the head light switch is turned to the parking light position. Tap your negative output to that leg of the relay.

The BLACK/ white neutral safety input should run through the provided toggle switch with the other end to ground.

I would recommend using the coil wire instead of an injector. If you do use an injector for tach signal you will have to raise the idle a little to program the tach. If you do not you will find that when you try to remote start the truck it will just tap the starter instead of cranking it.

What wires are you not sure about?

Hope I didn't miss anything.

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jasoncw

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Posted: December 17, 2007 at 9:07 PM / IP Logged

Thanks for the very quick and thorough reply.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I have neither a factory alarm nor the Sentry, so those are a couple less items I need to worry about.

Thanks for the tip on the coil/injector. As for the neutral safety switch, I wasn't aware that was simply supposed to be switched to ground. Can't get much simpler than that.

For the ignition/accessory, I wasn't aware that I needed the second ignition. So that would be wired to the RS PK/WT, correct? Then I would use a relay powered by the first accessory to run the second accessory?

jasoncw

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Posted: December 28, 2007 at 8:19 PM / IP Logged

I found a couple threads that posted the resistors needed for the power locks on the 2005 Dodge Ram (330 ohm and 880 ohm). Radio Shack stocks the 330, but they do not carry an 880. Can I use a 1k, or a combination of resistors to get the proper resistance? TIA

Jason

jasoncw

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Posted: December 28, 2007 at 8:40 PM / IP Logged

I guess a better question would be, how close does the resistance need to be to 880 ohms? I could get that by wiring a couple 330's and a 220 in series, but what about wiring a 1.5k and 2.2k in parallel? Is 892 ohms close enough? TIA

Jason

aziegler

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Posted: December 28, 2007 at 8:53 PM / IP Logged

I just used a 1Kohm on the power locks (2005 Ram 3500) and it is working fine. I installed an Autopage rs727 so I also needed to use a relay on the Wht/Grn for the parking light at the headlight switch location. This was done through a 330ohm resister.

It looks like you are off to a good start.

jasoncw

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Posted: December 28, 2007 at 10:12 PM / IP Logged

Thanks for the input. I guess I will try it out and see what happens. :)

jasoncw

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Posted: December 30, 2007 at 12:00 PM / IP Logged

Sorry for such a noob question, but what is the purpose of the relay for the (-) parking lamp circuit? I have the option of either hooking up straight to the (+) wires, or to hook to the (-), I need to run a relay with a resistor. Is the sole purpose to lower the voltage? TIA

Jason

jasoncw

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Posted: December 30, 2007 at 12:46 PM / IP Logged

Also, here is how I plan to wire the parking lamp relay. Please let me know whether it is accurate. Thanks!

Jason

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aziegler

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Posted: December 30, 2007 at 12:53 PM / IP Logged

Jason,

Some of the circuits comming from your rs for your lights or locks etc cannot handle the load required to run the accessory you are asking. When this is the case it is usually identified with a (-)200mA capacity or another value indicated with a milliamp rating. You then use this low capacity circuit as a trigger for a relay that is designed to handle a much larger load.

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