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viper 5701, 1997 honda civic


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edowardo 
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Currently I am having difficulty wiring the Viper 5701 system in my car, and I am now seeking your help. Most of the wires have been installed and I'm now working on the remote start wiring. I'm hoping you can solve my first dilemma with my car.
The info:
- 1997 Honda Civic HX w/ manual transmission
- Viper 5701 Responder LE 2-Way Security and Remote Start System
The part I'm confuse about is where I should I tie in the Viper wires into the car for the remote start. I can't figure out what wires should be cut, tired in, or in what spot on the line itself; before or after another tied in line.
The wires I have that the Viper system needs to tie into are the following:
Starter (turns car on): BLACK/ White
Ignition 1 (Car Run): BLACK / YELLOW
Ignition 2 (Climate): Yellow
Accessory (Radio): WHITE/ Black
Here are the resources:
- Remote starter install instructions (shortened)
- Civic Schematic
- Viper 5701 Installation Instructions (Full)
edowardo 
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Also here is what I have finally come up with. Hopefully it is correct...
Idea for how it's wired
loneranger 
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Constant 12V+White Ignition Switch Harness 
StarterBLACK/ White Ignition Switch Harness 
IgnitionBLACK / YELLOW Ignition Switch Harness 
Ignition 2Yellow Ignition Switch Harness 
AccessoryWHITE/ Black Ignition Switch Harness 

From the 5701's H3 connector:

RED, RED / WHITE, & RED / BLACK goes to CONSTANT 12V+.

VIOLET goes to STARTER(car side).

GREEN goes to STARTER(key side).

PINK goes to IGNITION.

PINK/WHITE FLEX RELAY goes to IGNITION2.

ORANGE goes to ACCESSORY.

All others are not used and should be insulated.

edowardo 
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You are a god send. After reading your setup, it makes perfect sense now.
I assume when they ask you to cut the starter wire for the violet and green wires, the car will still work with a key through the viper's relay...
t&t tech 
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ok let me clarify a little more than loneranger, the wires posted above will be found at the ignition harness exitting the sterring panel, you can tap in to the respective wires, the only wire that needs to be cut would be the starter wire,(only if you would like the starter kill and anti-grind features to work) where the green goes towards the ignition switch and the violet to the other side, if ur still not clear post back.
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edowardo 
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t&t tech wrote:
ok let me clarify a little more than loneranger, the wires posted above will be found at the ignition harness exitting the sterring panel, you can tap in to the respective wires, the only wire that needs to be cut would be the starter wire,(only if you would like the starter kill and anti-grind features to work) where the green goes towards the ignition switch and the violet to the other side, if ur still not clear post back.
Ah I see why it should be cut now. Yeah I definitely want those features! Thanks a ton.
edowardo 
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I've come across one more issue which deals with the rear defroster. I'm not sure where to tie the wire into again, and there are two possible wires to use.
- Schematic of the defroster
The possible wire are:
BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2nd Status/defroster output
This wire supplies a 200mA output as soon as the module begins the remote start process. The H3/1 BLUE wire can also be used to activate the defogger trigger (latched/pulsed) 10-seconds after the remote start engages. (See the Feature Descriptions, Menu#3, feature 11 for details about programming this output.)
or
BLUE (-) 200mA status output
This wire supplies an output as soon as the module begins the remote start process. It can be used to activate a bypass module or power the key sense wire in most vehicles to disarm the factory alarm without unlocking. Note: Check vehicle information to verify if a bypass module is needed or if the key sense wire is needed.
edowardo 
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I'm going to assume that the BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA goes between the defroster switch and the relay; tied into the BLUE / YELLOW wire.
loneranger 
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Yes. I would install a diode in-line on the BLU/YEL and tap in between the diode and relay. Don't forget to program that ouput, because the 5701 on-board temperature sensor will decide(below 50F), when to allow ouput.

edowardo 
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Sweet, thanks! While we are on the topic of diodes, besides the defroster and clutch trigger requiring a diode, will I need one for the horn as well?
H2/8 BROWN / BLACK (-) Horn honk output
This wire is a low current output (200mA) and can be hooked to the horn honk wire in the vehicle. It can be programmed to sound only during full trigger or to be used like a siren output with arm/disarm chirps. Refer to System Features Menu#1, Feature 10 for more information.
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