viper 5901 into 2010 scion xb

ok the vehicle is a 2010 scion xb with a manual transmission no factory alarm other that the keyless entry that comes standard. i am looking to do this install myself I have done two other alarm installs one of which was a compustar 2 way unit hidden behind the cluster of my 1993 civic and a simple viper 350hv into a 1995 Integra. I feel comfortable soldering so that’s not a problem I live in az and its been hitting 116 lately and i need my car cool before me and my newborn get in. I have the alarm diagram and have been separating the wires to prepare for the install but this alarm has confused me. This is where I’m hoping one of you will step in and save the day.

h1/1 RED / white---orange(-) driver kick, white 13 pin plug, pin 3

h1/2 red---12v constant, white 30a + @ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin7

h1/3 brown-siren@ wire

h1/4 WHITE/ brown----parking light isolation wire----not used?<<<<>>>

h1/5 to ground

h1/7blue trunk pin---lt. green(-) @ driver kick or dash fuse box, white 30 pin plug(a), pin 7

h1/8 green, door trigger @each door trigger diode isolate each one.

h1/9 BLACK/ white, dome supervision---white (-) dash fuse box, white 6 pin plug(k),pin2

h1/10 WHITE/ blue, remote start activation----not used?<<<>>>

h1/11 white, parking light output---green(+) @ dash fuse box, white 30 pin plug(a), pin 29

H1/12 orange, ground when armed----not used???<<<<<>>>>

door lock harness: blue unlock output---pink(double pulse) @green lock output : ----- lt. blue @driver kick, white 18 pin plug, pin 7

h2/1 light GREEN/ black oem alarm disarm output-----key sense wire blue (-) @ ignition key switch or dash fuse box, white 32 pin plug(e), pin 23? <<<>>

h2/2 aux 4 -unused.

h2/3 oem alarm arm output---not used?? <<>>

h2/4 aux-unused

h2/5 aux3- unused

h2/6 aux1-unused

h2/7 diesel wait to start-- unused

h2/8 BROWN / black horn honk output--- lt. green (-) horn switch or dash fuse box, white 32 pin plug (e), pin 5? <<>>

h2/9 violet/white tach input--- gray (ac) @data link connector, white 16 pin plug, pin 9

h2/10 dark blue status output---unused?<<>>

h2/11 pink/white flex relay control output----<<>>

h2/12 orange - 200ma accessory output<<>>

h3/13 purple(-) 200 ma starter output--- to trigger a relay @ clutch switch so it shows that the clutch is depressed??<<>>

h2/14 pink(-)200ma ignition 1 output<<>>

h2/15 grey (-) hood input--- to supplied hood pin

h2/16 blue/white(-) 200ma rear defogger output --- black -latched @a/c control assembly, gray 10 pin plug, pin 2

h2/17 brown (+) brake shutdown input--- blue (+) @ brake switch

h2/18 BLACK/ white neutral safety switch---not used or do I ground this?<<>>

h3/1 pink (+) ignition 1 input/output---gray (+) ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 6

h3/2 RED / white (87) flex relay input (30a fused)----constant 12v???<<>>

h3/3 orange---(+) accessory output---black (+) ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin4?

h3/4 violet (+) starter output--- cut starter wire and solder to car side of starter wire

h3/5 green (+) starter input--- solder to key side of starter wire

h3/6 red, ignition 1 input---- constant 12 v ???

h3/7 pink/white (30) flex relay output---does this go to the second ignition?<<>>

h3/8 pink/black (87a) flex relay input-?? <<>>

h3/9 RED / black accessory/starter relay input--- constant 12v

h3/10 nc

I'll let a Viper expert answer most of your questions but your xB needs a transponder bypass.  There are many available but some of the pre-loaded, easy to install ones are PKALL or Key-Override-All.

It would get connected to the Viper in W2W mode via H2/10 (-) Status Output and +12v power & ground.

Soldering is fun!

i did extensive research and many people say that the xb does not need one my key doesnt have a chip in the key.

If yours doesn't have the  transponder, that will save you some time & money on the R/S install.  Also being as you don't have a factory alam you won't need to use H2/10 for keysense...Soldering is fun!

some xb models had them. Im sure the 2010 has it for sure.

i dont deal with viper much, so like kregs said, this is for the DEI specialists.

Ted

2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School

Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries

Compustar Expert

please dei specialists chime in here

is there any way to tell if i need a transponder bypass ?

yoyonogood wrote: is there any way to tell if i need a transponder bypass ?

Look for a red light somewhere on the dash or cluster flashing when the car is off and/or wrap the plastic part of your key in tin foil throughly and try to start the car. If it doesn't start then you have a transponder. Or look at the metal part of the key. If it has a small dot or a g printed on it near the plastic part that means it has a transponder.

Another way is to get a plain key made at a hardware store / Home Depot / WalMart for $3 and try it. 

Or you could pull the steering wheel cover and look for the transponder antenna ring and its' black 7 pin connector.  Pin 4 - RX - Light Blue,  Pin 5 - TX - Beige. 

The wire lists suggest there are 2 Starter and 2 Ignition wires in the xB.  After you verify this with a DMM, you can use the Flex relay for ING2 and will need another SPDT 30/40 Amp relay to energize the second Starter wire.

Soldering is fun!

what wire would i use to energize the second starter relay?