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thecroom9 
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Posted: December 19, 2010 at 6:16 PM / IP Logged  
Well im looking for a bit of help on installing my Avital 4103 remote starter on my 03 5.4 f250, the installation manual is absolutely useless, ive managed to track down a few guides laying out the colors and locations of most of the connections but im having a hard time finding information on the 4 pin satellite connector.... what is this to be connected to? I understand the heavy gauge harness shares alot of the same colors i assume that they are to sense when the key is being turned manually?
Ween 
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the 4-pin satellite connector provides negative outputs to drive the coil(s) of additional relays..such as the pink would provide an additional ignition, orange accessory, purple start, blue rem start active. they don't sense key inputs of any type.
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thecroom9 
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thanks for the reply, so what your saying basically is that i will not need to do anything with these wires?
Ween 
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how many ignition and accessory wires do you have listed?..two ignition & two accessory? you can use it for the second accessory or there are ways to wire a second accessory not using the satellite harness.
thecroom9 
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ok for the 4 pin satellite i have as follows:
1-blue (-) Status output
2-orange (-) accessory output
3-purple (-)Starter output
4-pink (-) Ignition output
ON THE TRUCK
IGNITION 1      WHITE/ YELLOW or RED / LIGHT GREEN (+)IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
IGNITION 2      RED / BLACK (+)      IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
IGNITION 3      N/A     
ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 1      GRAY / YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 2      DARK BLUE/LIGHT GREEN (+)
since this truck is the Barebones XL model it has manual heater controls meaning I wont need the acceddory connections?
Sorry if i seem like im a moron but this is not my specialty lol
tommy... 
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on the 5 pin harness you're keeping the BLACK/ white,brown,blue/white(no blue/white if the ignition key is NOT chipped,Or no need for that output)...Stagger cut and tape...Are you hooking up tach,,,? On the harness with parking lights and ground...Stagger cut and tape all BUT the white,black,GREEN/ black(if there is a factory alarm to dis-arm,if not,cut GREEN/ black and tape),and Tach(forget color...cut off if not connecting tach,)...As ween said ...the 4-pin can be used to trigger relays to power up the 2nd ignition and accessory wires...Although you could do the same with the existing ignition harness(thick wires)...If not using the tach...Turn off virtual tach and set crank time at .8 or 1.0 seconds...You can use the pink/white off the remote starts ignition harness to power the 2nd Ignition or Accessory(default is 2nd ignition...but can be changed to Acc. in programming)...Some people hook the BLACK/ white up to the toggle switch that is supplied with the starter...Some just run it straight to ground and eliminate that feature...Not to hard to hook it up...One side of switch to ground...The other side to the BLACK/ white...When switch is OFF...The remote start is NOT active(this is good when servicing the vehicle...IE oil changes dont cut off tech's hands)...There should be a sticker in the box to apply under the hood stating there is a remote start installed(warning)... You will still have to power up the Accessory wire,you will have to just leave it ON for when you remote start in the morning... On alot of Fords...ALL the ignition and Accessory wires need powered...If not,on some,it will turn on check engine lights...etc...On some Fords,there will be two of the same color wire in the ignition harness...Although they are the same wire...Sometimes they are in different pin positions and need powered as well...Will be easy to check...You do have a DMM...?

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thecroom9 
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thanks tommy, ill admit im gonna have to read that a few time before it sinks in but im gonna try to use white tape on all the wires to label them before i even carry this box out to the garage
tommy... 
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The tach is Violet/White on the 5 pin harness...

 Remote Start        

 WIRE  COLOR  POLARITY  LOCATION 
 Battery  YELLOW  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS...Both RED wires

here...! 

 Ignition 1  RED / GREEN  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS...Pink wire

here...! 

   ON 6.0 DEISELS IGN#1 WIRE IS WHITE/ YELLOW (+) ON 6.0 DEISELS IGN#1

WIRE IS WHITE/ YELLOW (+) 

 Ignition 2  GRAY / YELLOW  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS...Pink/White

wire here...! 

 Accessory 1  RED / BLACK  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS...Orange wire

here 

 Accessory 2  GRAY / YELLOW  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS..Sometimes

this one could be the Heat/AC...I dont remember...Hook up the first

one and see if the heater comes ON during Remote Start...If it

doesnt...Try just moving the Orange wire here...Then Remote Start

again and see if Heater comes ON...Just be aware of ABS/Check Engine

lights...Might have to power up BOTH Accessory wires...I don't

remember...If you do need to power up both...This is where the 4 pin

harness you were confused about comes into play...You could use the -

Accessory output to trigger a relay that is connected to 2nd

Accessory... 

 Starter 1  DARK GREEN  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS...Puplre wire

here...! 

 Anti-Theft Type  SECURILOCK 
 Anti-Theft Descript  AN RF SIGNAL ACTIVATED SYSTEM 
 Key Sense  BLACK/ PINK  (-)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 
 Neutral Safety  RED / LIGHT BLUE  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 
 Tachometer  WHITE/ PINK  (-)  AT MODULE ABOVE LEFT FRONT TIRE - PIN

#48 

   ON 6.0 DEISELS THE WIRE IS GREEN / WHITE LOCATED BEHIND UNDER DASH

FUSEBOX TAPED NEXT TO THE TRAILER HARNESS OR UNDER THE HOOD NEAR THE

MASTER CYLINDER THERE IS A WHITE/ PINK THAT HAS SHRINK WRAP ON THE END

OF IT. THIS ALSO MAY BE USED FOR TACH ON DIE...Violet/White from 5 pin

harness here...! 

 Speed Sense  GRAY/BLACK  (AC)  IN HARNESS ON INTERIOR DRIVERS SIDE OF

FIREWALL 

 Parking Lights  BROWN  (+)  IN HARNESS IN DRIVERS KICKPANEL...The

White wire from the 9 pin harness will go here...! 

 Brake Lights  GREEN  (+)  AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL...Brown wire

from the 5-pin harness will go here...! 

 Reverse Lights  BLACK/ PINK  (+)  IN HARNESS ON DRIVER SIDE FRAMERAIL 
 Horn  BLUE  (-)  6-WAY PLUG RT OF STEERING COLUMN...The Brown from

the 9 pin harness could go here...Would chirp horn when lock/unlock

and during remote start...Just dont confuse it with the BRAKE wire of

the same color...! 

 Modules        
 WIRE  LOCATION     
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 Doorlocks/Windows        
 WIRE  COLOR  POLARITY  LOCATION 
 Power Unlock  PINK/GREEN OR BLACK/ WHITE  (-)  IN HARNESS IN DRIVERS

KICKPANEL OR DR. DOOR BOOT...Blue wire from the 3 pin harness here

ONLY if the truck had FACTORY keyless entry...! 

   W/O KEYLESS ENTRY REV POLARITY DOORLOCK SYSTEM 
 PowerLock  PINK / YELLOW OR WHITE/ RED  (-)  IN HARNESS IN DRIVERS

KICKPANEL OR DR. DOOR BOOT...Green wire from the 3 pin harness here

ONLY if truck has factory keyless...! 

   W/O KEYLESS ENTRY,REV POLARITY DOORLOCK SYSTEM

And no GREEN/ Black from the 9 pin harness needed it appears..! Cut and

tape..! .So just the White ,Black,Possibly brown for horn...Cut and

tape up the others...Stagger cut them so they cant touch when you tape

them up...!

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tommy... 
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Well that came out horrible...See if you can read it...It's the colors of the vehicles wires,followed by what wire from the 4103 connects to it...All others will be cut off and taped...The door locks wires will only connect straight from the r/s to the vehicle IF it HAS factory keyless entry...The Door Lock Wires should be pretty thin if they are negative trigger...If no factory keyless then relays are in order and the wires in vehicle will be a bit thicker...
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tommy... 
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Posted: December 19, 2010 at 10:40 PM / IP Logged  

The tach is Violet/White on the 5 pin harness...

 Remote Start        

 WIRE  COLOR  POLARITY  LOCATION 
 Battery  YELLOW  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS...Both RED wires here...! 
 

Ignition 1  RED / GREEN  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS...Pink wire here...! 

   ON 6.0 DEISELS IGN#1 WIRE IS WHITE/ YELLOW (+) ON 6.0 DEISELS IGN#1 WIRE IS WHITE/ YELLOW (+) 
 

Ignition 2  GRAY / YELLOW  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS...Pink/White wire here...! 

 

Accessory 1  RED / BLACK  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS...Orange wire

here 

 Accessory 2  GRAY / YELLOW  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS..Sometimes this one could be the Heat/AC...I dont remember...Hook up the first one and see if the heater comes ON during Remote Start...If it doesnt...Try just moving the Orange wire here...Then Remote Start again and see if Heater comes ON...Just be aware of ABS/Check Engine lights...Might have to power up BOTH Accessory wires...I don't remember...If you do need to power up both...This is where the 4 pin harness you were confused about comes into play...You could use the - Accessory output to trigger a relay that is connected to 2nd Accessory... 

 Starter 1  DARK GREEN  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS...Purple wire here...! 

 

Anti-Theft Type  SECURILOCK 

 Anti-Theft Descript  AN RF SIGNAL ACTIVATED SYSTEM  ...HAVE WE CHECKED/VERIFIED THERE IS NO CHIP IN THE KEY...?
 

Key Sense  BLACK/ PINK  (-)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 

 Neutral Safety  RED / LIGHT BLUE  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 

 Tachometer  WHITE/ PINK  (-)  AT MODULE ABOVE LEFT FRONT TIRE - PIN #48  

  ON 6.0 DEISELS THE WIRE IS GREEN / WHITE LOCATED BEHIND UNDER DASH FUSEBOX TAPED NEXT TO THE TRAILER HARNESS OR UNDER THE HOOD NEAR THE MASTER CYLINDER THERE IS A WHITE/ PINK THAT HAS SHRINK WRAP ON THE END OF IT. THIS ALSO MAY BE USED FOR TACH ON DIE...Violet/White from 5 pin harness here...! 

Speed Sense  GRAY/BLACK  (AC)  IN HARNESS ON INTERIOR DRIVERS SIDE OF FIREWALL 

 Parking Lights  BROWN  (+)  IN HARNESS IN DRIVERS KICKPANEL...The White wire from the 9 pin harness will go here...! 

 

Brake Lights  GREEN  (+)  AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL...Brown wire from the 5-pin harness will go here...! 

 

Reverse Lights  BLACK/ PINK  (+)  IN HARNESS ON DRIVER SIDE FRAMERAIL 

 

Horn  BLUE  (-)  6-WAY PLUG RT OF STEERING COLUMN...The Brown from the 9 pin harness could go here...Would chirp horn when lock/unlock and during remote start...Just dont confuse it with the BRAKE wire of the same color...!  

 

 Doorlocks/Windows        

WIRE  COLOR  POLARITY  LOCATION 
 Power Unlock  PINK/GREEN OR BLACK/ WHITE  (-)  IN HARNESS IN DRIVERS

KICKPANEL OR DR. DOOR BOOT...Blue wire from the 3 pin harness here ONLY if the truck had FACTORY keyless entry...! 

   W/O KEYLESS ENTRY REV POLARITY DOORLOCK SYSTEM 
 

PowerLock  PINK / YELLOW OR WHITE/ RED  (-)  IN HARNESS IN DRIVERS KICKPANEL OR DR. DOOR BOOT...Green wire from the 3 pin harness here ONLY if truck has factory keyless...! 

   W/O KEYLESS ENTRY,REV POLARITY DOORLOCK SYSTEM

 

And no GREEN/ Black from the 9 pin harness needed it appears..! Cut and tape..! .So just the White ,Black,Possibly brown for horn...Cut and tape up the others...Stagger cut them so they cant touch when you tape them up...! So thats wraps up the 9 pin harness...

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