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thang25 
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Posted: March 18, 2011 at 11:01 AM / IP Logged  
Hi,
I connect the viper 5701 and pkall on Odyssey 04 with D2D connection where I press the start key from remote and it start but the engine is not running. And when I left the key On position and engine running. So I double check and I found the wire Blue/white (-) while running need to connect to remote start. Does anyone know where it connect to?
Do I need to connect the black wire from pkall to ground?
Thanks
thang25 
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Posted: March 18, 2011 at 11:53 AM / IP Logged  
I called the Expresskit support and he told me to connect the Blue/white(-) to blue/white(-)2nd remote start status of the Viper 5701 and car still can start with a remote. What should I do next?
Thanks
Thang
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Posted: March 18, 2011 at 7:27 PM / IP Logged  

Sounds like possibly two problems.

First disconnect the D2D harness from the PKALL and re-connect the cut Data wire ( Blue/Green ).  Will the van remote start with the ignition key in but not turned?  If it won't remote start then check your Viper ignition wiring and programming options.  If it will remote start and does stay running the problem is with the PKALL.

Here is a link to the PKALL  2004 Odyssey install guide : http://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=6378&productid=196&firmwareid=1636

Here is the wire color/pin info:
                                          Data                            Synchro
Odyssey 99-04       Pin2 Blue/Green       Pin3 ORANGE / Blue      @5 pin Green Connector @ key barrel
Did you wire it up correctly?  Did it program as per the instructions?

Soldering is fun!
thang25 
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Posted: March 18, 2011 at 10:58 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks kreg357, I found the problem after I solder all the wires that connected to PKALL then it works. Probably some wire loose.
I had another problem with the Power lock/unlock. I can either lock or unlock. Both wire is (-) and I think the box does not had enough power to unlock. Do you think I need a relay on unlock?
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Posted: March 19, 2011 at 3:55 AM / IP Logged  

Honda's are typically straight Type B (-) and don't require relays.  Here is wire info from Bulldog:

 POWER LOCK          BLACK/ BLUE (TYPE B) See NOTE *1      @ PASSENGER SIDE FUSEBOX, See NOTE *2    
 POWER UNLOCK    ORANGE (TYPE B) See NOTE *1              @ PASSENGER SIDE FUSEBOX, See NOTE *2 
 NOTE *1 these wires can ONLY be metered or tested buy turning the key in the PASSENGER DOOR KEY CYLINDER.
 NOTE *2 these wires are found in a 20-pin plug on the LX models and on the EX models the wires are in a 3-pin plug.

If your Viper has the the (+) / (-) Flip/Flop type lock outputs, blocking diodes would be in order.  ( A 1N4001 diode

with the band towards the Viper.)  All wires should be verified with a Digital Multi Meter and all connections well
soldered.

Soldering is fun!

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