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c.c.autospa305 
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I'm wondering is it possible on some vehicles for the there to be an additional wire that test positive for ignition and starter circuits at the body control module(bcm)? I recently installed an alarm on a 2005 Pontiac Grand Prix and I noticed it previously had an alarm installed because the last installer left all his t-taps on the corresponding wires necessary for an alarm connection. I don't remember the wire colors but I tested and confirmed ignition AND starter wires at the bcm. I looked at the ignition harness only to see those wires untouched which made the job look a little cleaner. Can anyone add any insight into this, please.
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Yes it is very possible that the wires run right from/to the BCM from the ignition switch. That 05 Grand Prix is one that it's easier to catch the wires on the left of the column/dash/at the BCM than at the ignition switch. The problem is, that just because a wire at the BCM behaves as ignition it does not mean it is the correct ignition wire. On some vehicles, if you try to power ignition/accessory/etc wires at the BCM you could cause damage to the vehicle. Safest way is to go to the ignition switch.
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c.c.autospa305 
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Okay, thanks for the reply and info. Most basic alarms won't send power to the ignition/starter wires, just used as an immobilizer, correct? That would only apply when installing a remote start?
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Just a silly thought re: the first post; T-taps and installer don't go together too well.bcm vs ignition harness -- posted image.
On a more professional level that rule doesn't apply to all cars, it's also simply a point of convenience.
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What's the professional, industry standard way of making wire connections Howie? Solder?
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Of course with NO. with no exceptions. See the posts in the general discussion section.
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Sorry about the typo, doing it on my phone whilst watching TV! Not clever. In brief, yes with no exceptions.
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What kind of solder(size & type) is typical for electrical conncetions in wiring an alarm, remote start, remote windows, etc.?
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typo....connections*.....sorry
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I use a military splice on all wires except data connections and underhood connections. Saves a ton of time on soldering and eliminates any "bad" soldering. Plus it can be a PITA when trying to reach wires and are trying to solder in a small space.
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