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jimse 
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Posted: December 29, 2011 at 12:57 AM / IP Logged  
Hi all (first time poster here),
I have some RS install experience, but haven't done a bypass/RS. The Fortin instructions look simple enough and there's a data link connector on the U1280.
What I'm unsure about is what all needs to be wired from the RS to the vehicle (2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee).
Taking an uneducated wild guess, I'm thinking maybe the start/acc/12v/ignition on the big 6-pin connector, the horn and ground on the 4-pin conn (and maybe park light), and hood pin and maybe tach on the 13-pin conn.
Anyone have experience with this or similar combos that can give advise? I just have no idea what the RS can get via the data link.
Thanks,
Jim
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Posted: December 29, 2011 at 2:50 AM / IP Logged  

Here is a link to info on D2D compatability between the Ultra Start 1280 and the Fortin bypass  :  https://ifar.ca/en/datalink/ultrastart/1280_series/

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Posted: December 29, 2011 at 3:14 AM / IP Logged  

Your R/S to vehicle connections look complete.

 12 VOLT CONSTANT          PINK/BLACK (+) and RED (+)     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

 STARTER                              YELLOW (+)                                    IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
 IGNITION 1                           DARK BLUE (+)                              IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
 ACCESSORY 1                    RED / BLACK (+)                              IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
 ACCESSORY 2                    BLACK/ ORANGE (+)                     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS  **Set U1280 thick White wire to ACC2
 PARKING LIGHTS ( - )        YELLOW (-)                                     @ HEADLIGHT SWITCH, See DIAGRAM
http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/diagrams/extrainfo/diagrams/14301_GRAND-CHEROKEE_GRAND%20CHEROKEE%20PARKING%20LIGHT%20DIAGRAM.pdf
 HORN                                    GRAY/ORANGE (-)                        @ HORN SWITCH
 BRAKE                                  WHITE/ TAN (+)                               @ SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL

Tach signal supplied by the EVO-ALL should be OK.

Here are some good tips on dash disassembly from a senior forum member found in an earlier post :

--Disassembly: Tilt wheel all the way down, unsnap plastic piece below speedometer, remove two Philips screws.
Under the dash, remove two 10mm gold-colored screws. Pull the lower dash panel straight (toward the rear of the
car), and it'll unclip. Behind there is a black metal brace. Remove four more 10mm gold colored screws. Note
that these screws are shorter than the other two, so don't mix them up.

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jimse 
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Posted: December 29, 2011 at 11:34 AM / IP Logged  
Perfect, thanks!
One followup question having to do with the data link cable supplied by Fortin. It doesn't fit into the connector on the U1280.
My Ultra Start connector layout is new and shown here http://ultrastarters.com/manuals_download_pdf/2011%20manuals/80_newboards.pdf. I verified with support@ultrastarters.com that the diagram is correct.
I'm guessing the U1280 connector is for an iDataLink and that the iDataLink and Fortin connectors are different. If that's correct, what's the correct way to make the connection? Is there an adapter available? Neither the U1280 nor the EVO-ALL supplied a male connector that will fit into the data port on the U1280.
Here's a pic of both modules and the Fortin-supplied cable.
evo all, ultra start u1280 -- posted image.
Coincidentally, the cable fits perfectly into the far-right connector on the U1280 :(
Thanks again,
Jim
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Posted: December 29, 2011 at 5:09 PM / IP Logged  
Think all you have to do is trim the raised edges of the supplied connector flush with the rest of the plug such that it fits into the slot. The rest of the plug dimensions should be OK.
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jimse 
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Posted: December 30, 2011 at 2:53 PM / IP Logged  
Trimmed the connector and squished it in there. Everything went together with zero problems. Wife is super happy.
Thanks again for all your help!
Jim

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