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jstruckman

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Posted: January 12, 2012 at 5:58 PM / IP Logged

Doing a R/S in a Titan and it shows to wire a relay under the hood which will connect starter 1 and starter 2 together. Since this has to be done, and there are two starter wires in the ignition harness, do I need to use the starter 2 output from the remote start on the starter 2 wire also, or is this actually being done with the relay under the hood at the fusebox. I am using the DBALL. (Last one, then using idatalink and fortin from here on)?

flobee4

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Posted: January 12, 2012 at 6:14 PM / IP Logged

Yeah, you need to hook up all the starter wires inside the car as well as the outside. Just follow the diagram to a "T" and you should be good. Next time use the Fortin EVO-Can with the 4.0 or higher firmware and you'll never want to do it the "old" way again.

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Posted: January 12, 2012 at 9:43 PM / IP Logged

the i dat requires the same relay and that ipdm is a bit of a botch to get to the ground and the neutral safety wire lol

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Posted: January 12, 2012 at 10:27 PM / IP Logged

did this car the other day, the ipdm doesnt slide out too easily. You have to tug on it and twist it around just to get enough slack.

The relay will fit back under the cover, but make sure you use a waterproof relay aka epoxy filled.

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tedmond

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Posted: January 12, 2012 at 10:28 PM / IP Logged

and the fortin prevents the use of a relay under the hood. Which i dont get?

the wiring for the idatalink, DBALL, fortin are the same, just the fortin doesnt need the IPDM starter/nss wire. any ideas why?

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jstruckman

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Posted: January 13, 2012 at 9:58 AM / IP Logged

Fortin does show connecting to the RX/TX wires at the ingnition barrell, DBALL and idatalink dont show that, so maybe that is the difference for not needing the relay, but i doubt it. Also, Fortin shows pins 13 and 14 at the BCM as being unlock/diarm and lock/arm. DBALL says to turn off the factory alarm through programming on the DBALL and idatalink does not say anything about the factory alarm. Tedmond did you connect to pins 14 and 14 for your lock and unlock wires at the BCM?

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Posted: January 13, 2012 at 10:15 AM / IP Logged

i have done 3 of these vehicles in the combinations

compustar pro + blade AL

compustar pro + fortin EVO

Viper 5901 + DBALL

for all the systems i didnt run wires into the BCM. Never had issues with factory alarms either. Everything worked as it said it would through CAN/DATA for idata and fortin

The only thing is the DBALL you have to turn on the features for locks/unlock, and factory alarm. I left the can controlled parking lights(which have a one second delay anyways). The other 2 settings should have been defaulted anyways. I dont get xpresskits sometimes.

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jstruckman

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Posted: January 13, 2012 at 11:09 AM / IP Logged

Tedmond, so with the DBALL did you just turn off the factory alarm so there would be no problems. It is definately retarded that you have to go in and turn on these features with the DBALL.

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Posted: January 13, 2012 at 4:44 PM / IP Logged

I just left the default feature, never heard any complaints from the customer.

Factory alarm didn't randomly go off so I didn't disable it

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jstruckman

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Posted: January 14, 2012 at 1:53 PM / IP Logged

Finished up the Titan, no problems with alarm going off unless I used the switch on the door to lock it, then the R/S remote to unlock. But that is normal. Customer says they want the factory alarm to stay like it is , so I am gonna bet I will have to go back and wire the door lock/unlock wires into the empty pins on the BCM. Aside from getting at the wires at the IPDM, that was a very easy install. Getting to ignition wires and data wires was super easy under the dash.

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