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henryweston157 
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Posted: March 29, 2012 at 2:00 PM / IP Logged  

Hello all, i am a newbie, so be gentle.....

I have a 2004 Suburban and installing at Viper 5704 (remote start). I am little confused by the wording in the quick start guide vs direct wire.  The alarm has 9 wires, but direct wire only mentions 7 wires.... I am asking if anyone can tell me what wire from the alarm to connect to the vehicle.  Please......

Quick Start Guide says:

Pink - (+) Ignition 1 Input/Output

RED / White - (+) Fused (30A) Ignition 2/Flex Relay input 87

Orange - Acc Output

Violet - Starter Output (car side of the starter kill)

Green - Starter input (key side of the starter kill)

Red - Ignition 1 Input

pink/white - ignition 2 output

pink/black - flex relay input 87a key side (if required) of flex relay

RED / black - accessory/starter input

The DirectWire printout for this vehicle states:

Red - 12volts

RED / white - 2nd 12volts

yellow - starter

pink - ignition

white - second ignition

orange - accessory

brown- 2nd accessory

What I have come up with so far on paper connecting alarm to vehicle

Pink to pink

RED / white to white

orange to orange

violet to yellow

Also I live in Lancaster, CA, if anyone wants to visit me......

itsyuk 
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Posted: March 29, 2012 at 2:35 PM / IP Logged  

i think the the viper red and RED / white go to the burb red

org to org

pnk to pnk

pnk/white to white

violet to yellow

i dont know if you will need to power the brown wire or not.

some of the other wires on the viper are for controlling you passkey bypass module.

surley someone will be chiming in to correct me or confirm my answer or add to it.

yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
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henryweston157 
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Posted: March 29, 2012 at 2:42 PM / IP Logged  
Thank you for the quick response!!  I will relook at the red RED / white.  I guess its the input/output that is throwing me off....
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Posted: March 29, 2012 at 3:20 PM / IP Logged  
Viper Red, RED / White & RED / Black (H3/2, H3/6, H3/9 ) all go to +12V constant.
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henryweston157 
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Ok. Got the wires hooked up. Push remote start and remote says remote start disabled. I tried to push the controller after turning on ignition and off again per manual, and led never lights up or alarm never sounds 1x, 2x, or 3x.... Ugh what a pain.... Help please again.
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Posted: March 29, 2012 at 8:32 PM / IP Logged  

OK.  Some things to check.

You didn't mention a bypass module.  You will need a bypass module to remote start the vehicle.  Your 2004 Suburban

should have the Passlock2 immobilizer system.  The are many bypass modules available for this vehicle.  Here is a
link to the modules from DEI :  http://www.xpresskit.com/VehicleCompatibility.aspx?p=null&year=2004&make=Chevrolet&model=Suburban&ps=3&s=0&c=0

There are more wires on the Viper that need to be connected than just the H3 wires.  Perhaps you could list all your

connections.

On the Viper:

The Neutral Safety wire must be connected to a chassis ground ( assuming auto trans ) for a remote start.  The Neutral

Safety Switch must be plugged in and set to ON, also.

The Viper comes set for Manual Transmission.  You must program it for AutoTrans ( still assuming auto trans ).  See

Menu 3, Item 1, Opt 2.

The Viper has "Shutdown Diagnostics".  Try getting a specific error code from that.

Soldering is fun!
henryweston157 
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Ok, I must admit, I was really hoping the remote start would work now, you know kinda testing as I go.... but.... I still have the 24 wires from the H2 connector.  I have H1, H3, the door lock connector, and shock sensor installed.  I did purchase the DEI GMDLBP module, and so far wired the 12+, Ground, and signal wire to Pin 2 on the OBDII connector.  The alarm sounds, the doors lock, lights flash, blue led blinks....But I cannot get into the programming mode as of yet, probably due to the 24 Pin not being connected yet....  I did have a question on the GMDLBP module.... Do the following wires go from the module to the 5704 or the vehicle 2004 Surburban

Module      5704         Suburban

Brown - Negative Ground Output when running ?????       ??????????

Pink/White - Door Trigger Output   ?????    LF Door gray/black, RF Door BLACK/ white, LR Door lt blue/black, RR Door lt GREEN/ black

Pink - Dome Light Input from vehicle      ?????     Dome Supervision grey/black BCM, black plug, Pin E

Heck, it might be cheaper to fly you to Cali to help me out !!!!.... I really want to do this install myself, and I am so greatful, you are helping me..... Thank you, Thank you, Thank you...

itsyuk 
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most people dont realize how many connections need to be made(especially on newer cars) to make all those bells and whistles work.

when you pay an installer, you are mostly paying for expertise, not really the time since most good installers can install most systems in a couple or so hours....and it takes a novice a few hours each of several days etc. etc..

when you are finally done you will have wires that werent needed to complete your installation.

every car company has their little things that they do differently so alarm/remote start companies work very hard to cover all the bases.

doing things yourself gives a person great pride..... until they set of an air bag that knocks tem into the B pillar giving them a concussion and extended hospital stay.

yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.
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Posted: March 30, 2012 at 5:41 AM / IP Logged  
I don't have the install guide handy and can't download it right now what is in the 24 pin harness ?   Assuming its an auto did you connect the neutral safety wire to ground ?   Is you're hood pin grounded ? Is the brake wire seeing 12v all the time ?
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Posted: March 30, 2012 at 7:04 AM / IP Logged  
Henry why do you have question marks under the 5704 wiring?
Surely you have the install instructions? If not why even start.
And testing as you go NO, NO, NO!!!!
Test first.
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