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vinsanity0429 
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Posted: April 03, 2012 at 10:11 PM / IP Logged  
Trying to wire a fuel pump cut-off switch for a 2006 f350 6.0 .
Can someone please help with the color and location of the fuel pump wiring?
And would it be better to create a separate switch for it or have it integrated into the alarm trigger?
Thanks
itsyuk 
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Posted: April 04, 2012 at 9:11 AM / IP Logged  

once you find the pump pos, using a standard bosch style relay, maybe wire the

pump feed to #30

pump to #87a

ground # 86

tap into the siren positive( with #86 (if you are currently using only one siren)

as an option depending on  the alarm.........power an extra siren inside the truck to #87

as long as the alarms siren is wailing, the one inside the truck will also any time thethe truck is being attempted to start.

yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.
howie ll 
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Posted: April 04, 2012 at 9:42 AM / IP Logged  
Itsyuk, your post, surely ground to 85.
itsyuk 
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oooops.
Yes. Switch my 85 and 86 numbers.
Howie, you can go back to napping now.
yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.
howie ll 
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Nah, nap was this a.m. I'm playing catch-up with Madmen and Game of Thrones.
vinsanity0429 
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Posted: April 04, 2012 at 3:08 PM / IP Logged  
Thank you for the help. Now I just need to find the fuel pump wire...
I think it's light blue/ orange coming from the PCM. I found a schematic on this forum:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1033445-wiring-diagram-for-fuel-pump-circuit.html
If anybody could verify it would be much appreciated
oldspark 
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Posted: April 04, 2012 at 7:51 PM / IP Logged  
It looks like the 20A fuse (F2 40) could be used - at least on that first diagram (fuse numbers may differ on yours).
That seems to be the dedicated power fuse for the pump(s).
Otherwise, if the relay's coil side can be broken (low current & hence not needing a relay )...
howie ll 
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Posted: April 05, 2012 at 3:39 AM / IP Logged  
Or even safer from a reliability point of view look at the inertia cut off switch, physically likely to be in or near a kick panel, the wire going to it from the control module, DG/YE (dark GREEN/ YELLOW?)use this diagram:-
fuel_cut-off.bmp
Note I've given you the option of EITHER alarm control OR a switch.
In my opinion anything that can block a moving vehicle is COMPLETELY unsafe and isn't recommended by the authorities either in the US or UK though the Australians say do it.
Be it on your head.
vinsanity0429 
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Posted: April 05, 2012 at 6:17 AM / IP Logged  
That is exactly what I needed! Thank you so much for the help.
oldspark 
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howie ll wrote:
... though the Australians say do it.
Eh? I know we're stupid, and our authorities often more stupid, but that?
Is there something you know that I don't (wrt vehicle immobilisation or stoppage, though I suspect you'll be proven more knowledgeable yet again!)
Not that I'd stop a petrol engine by cutting its fuel - that's a potential for severe and costly engine damage. An Ignition-Kill is the answer... (I think most know my views on using oil-pressure to control fuel pumps, and my story regarding certain Aussie morons on an "EFI hackers" site...)
As to inertia - ha! I even worry about airbags false triggering (with MY driving). Even the AbCircle-pro uses the "momentum of gravity" instead!
Damn, that makes me think of how 97% of Victorians if not all Aussies don't even know the roundabout rule for vehicles... Meanwhile our authorities blame "attitude" and speed for our accidents!
And 2 "funny"(sick) pics from a recent trip, 2 adjacent roadside signs (note too the "Wipe off 5" (LOL) - does anyone know what that means?):
info needed for fuel pump cut off -- posted image. info needed for fuel pump cut off -- posted image.
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