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relacsn 
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The install- its a viper 5704 (new 5901) with an xpresskit xk06 loaded with dlpkgm. It is going into an 02 buick rendezvous.
I installed the 5901 in my fleetwood but my memory is a little foggy.
1. Diodes- will the door locks be the only place I need diodes?2. Flex relay- from what I have gathered this is used in some ignition switches, mainly toyota or nissan. Will this be something I need to hook up or do I just leave these out?3. Has anyone ever done anything d2d? It says I only need to hook up one wire from the xk06 module and it will control my door locks, hatch release, ac, rear defrost and possibly other things? So would this mean I attach this wire from the module to the car and I don't have to hook up any of these features on the alarm?Any input would be greatly appreciated.
If I left out any pertinent let me know and I will get it on here as soon as I can. Thanks
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Sorry, I am not a big XPressKit user, buy I can't find an install guide for an XK06 flashed with DLPKGM firmware

anywhere.  The XK09 lists that firmware but does not support the Rendezvous.  There is the DEI DLPKGM bypass
module ( OEM'd by Fortin ) listed for the Rendezvous but it only handles the locks, bypass, parking lights and
supplies a Tach signal.  Even plugged in an XK06 to the XKLoader2 and looked for 2002 Rendezvous firmwares.
The only XK06 firmware listed for the Rendezvous was PKG5 and that only does the bypass function. 

Could you supply a link for the XK06 w/DLPKGM firmware install guide?

Anyway, the vehicle has two ignition wires, one starter wire and two accessory wires.  You will need the Vipers

Pink/White flex relay output for the Ignition2 wire and could possible leave the Brown ACC2 wire un-powered.  It
would be simple enough to install a 30/40 Amp controlled by the Vipers (-)200ma Orange Accessory Output to
power the vehicles Brown ACC2 wire.

The door locks are a one-wire system, Unlock is straight ground and Lock is ground thru a 470 ohm resistor.  You might

get away with direct connections or maybe adding diodes will help.  Audiovox suggests using relays to "enhance" the
ground signal.  A DEI 451M lock module might be required and it comes with the resistor needed.

Soldering is fun!
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Sorry it is an xk09 and on the back it says dlpkgm. The box says soleX series. So your saying this isn't the correct module for my car? No wonder i couldn't find the manual online...I just checked my email from ordering and I did order the DLPKGM but received an xk09. Though when I go to xpresskits manual download it has 03-07 rendezvous. Hopin it is the same for the 02. Thanks for all the info.

So with the dlpkgm I will run the d2d connector to the module and the alarm. The only wires from the dlpkgm are 1 data wire to the car and igntion to the car and tach to the alarm, is this correct? Then I wouldnt to have to worry about the door locks, bypass, parking lights and tach wires from the alarm to car. I shouldn't need any diodes for this setup, right?

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Posted: April 06, 2012 at 5:06 AM / IP Logged  

Just double checked the XK09 w/DLPKGM firmware.  Neither the general availability V2.05

or the beta V2.07 list the Rendevous ( or it's cousin Aztek ).  There is a big difference
between the DEI XK09 and the Fortin oem'd DLPKGM bypass module.  Perhaps another forum
member has experience with that vehicle and the XK09.  Best bet would be a call to DEI
to verify that module / firmware combination will work before taking the dash apart.  I
remember doing a few early Azteks with a spare key, 556UW and hardwiring the rest.

If you are going by this installation guide ( for the actual DLPKGM module )  : 

http://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=5950&productid=125&firmwareid=1633
You will find that the modules' connectors shown in the diagram do not match up with your
XK09 module. 

To answer the D2D question ( using the above install guide ), yes, no need for diodes

( or relays ) for the door locks.  Note that the Tach signal would still need to be
hardwired between the bypass and the Viper.  Also, the bypass Pink Ignition wire can be
connected to the viper's H3 Pink Ignition wire which would continue to the vehicle's
Pink Ignition wire at the ignition switch.

Soldering is fun!
relacsn 
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Great....so I wrote techronics.com (where I purchased alarm and module) and told them my bill said dlpkgm but I received the xk09 and here's what I got in response " The DLPKGM has been discontinued, the XK09 is the direct replacement and does the same things." Funny thing is the dlpkgm still shows in stock on their website and they charged me for the dlpkgm. Fun fun.
relacsn 
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Well, now there saying it doesn't work for my car and they're going to have their returns department contact me...
Btw kreg thank you so much for your help. Bear with me as I may need some more help but I think I'm starting to get it.
relacsn 
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I can't find a dlpkgm. Will the DB ALL work? It looks like from xpresskits website it does and it controls more options?
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Absolutely.  See if they won't give you the DB-ALL flashed with the 401.GM5 firmware for the same price, seeing as all the trouble they put you through... viper 5704 in a 02 rendezvous -- posted image.
Soldering is fun!
relacsn 
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I doubt they charge anything for flashing it but its on their website for the price I paid for the dlpkg. Nice
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I got the DBALL in the mail today. It's nice, I have the d2d cable, J1850, and RAP Off to hook up. I just would like to clarify some things to make sure I do this right.

 On the heavy gauge connector, I have an ignition 1 input/output and a (+) (30A) fused Ignition 1 Relay input, what is the difference. The Ignition 2/flex relay input 87 is the polarity feed for ig.2/flex relay, does this mean solder this to positve for a positive output and ground for a negative output?? So since my car has a green (+) wire on ignition 2 this wire is soldered to positive so the Ignition 2 output is positive?

On the Aux/shutdown/trigger harness I have H2/3 blue/white (-200mA) 2nd status/rear defogger unit. What is the 2nd status? Aside from that I can hook this to a relay then to the wire that powers the rear defogger? And I would use a diode or none because I was going into a relay and not into the car?

I ordered a XKloader2 because they didn't load any firmware on the DBALL. Are they hard to use? Am I going to be able to download the firmware off of xpresskits site?

Thanks again for all your help.

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