viper 5704 into 2002 f350 diesel

I’m in need of some pointers and help installing a Viper 5704 into a 2002 F350 Diesel. I’d like to see if someone can verify what I've done so far and if it’s correct. Also needing additional help with the other connections. In addition to the standard Viper 5704 alarm I’m also adding a 506T glass breakage sensor, 507M tilt sensor, 508D Proximity radar motion sensor, 530T Window control module. Keep in mind my vehicle details: 2002 F350 Diesel Superduty XLT four door crew cab Four wheel drive No key phobe, just a regular key with separate remote push button OEM security. No rear window defrost, just a regular full length rear window. So far I’ve done: -Main Harness, 6-pin connector -H1/1: Red, (+)12VDC Constant Input. [found constant 12VDC and connected] -H1/2:Black, (-) Chassis ground. [Connected to chassis ground] -H1/3:Brown, (+) Siren Output. [Connected to red wire in siren] -H1/4:WHITE/ Brown, Parking light isolation wire-pin 87a of onboard relay [not used] -H1/5:White, Parking light output. [connected to parking light + wire, verified and works] -H1/6:Orange, (-)500mA Ground when armed output, [Don’t know where to connect] Aux/Shutdown/Trigger Harness, 24-pin connector -H2/1:Pink/White, (-) 200mA Ignition/Flex relay control output [don’t know if I need this connection] -H2/2:BLACK/ White, (-) Neutral safety input. [connected to chassis ground] -H2/3:Blue/White, (-) 200mA 2nd status/rear defogger output [don’t know if I need this] -H2/4:GREEN/ Black, (-) 200mA OEM Alarm disarm output. [don’t know where to connect or which wire] -H2/5:RED / White, (-) 200mA Truck Release output. [not used, truck do not have trunks] -H2/6:Green, (-) Door trigger input (n/c or n/o). [did not use, don’t know if I need this one] -H2/7:BLACK / YELLOW, (-) 200mA Done light supervision output. [did not use, don’t know if I need this one] -H2/8:BROWN / Black,(-)200mA Horn honk output. [Connected to (+) side of horn, did not work, need help] -H2/9:Dark Blue, (-) 200mA status output. [don’t know where to connect] -H2/10:Pink, (-) 200mAIgnition 1 output. [don’t know where to connect] -H2/11:WHITE/ Black, (-) 200mA AUX 3 output. [Don’t know if I need this] -H2/12:Violet, (+) door trigger input. [connected to BLACK/ blue wire in drivers kick panel, opens all doors] -H2/13:WHITE/ Violet, (-) 200mA Aux 1 output. [don’t know if I need this] -H2/14:Violet/Black, (-) 200mA Aux 2 output. [don’t know if I need this] -H2/15:ORANGE / Black, (-) 200mA Aux 4 output. [don’t know if I need this] -H2/16:Brown, (+) Brake Shutdown Input. [don’t know what this is or where to connect it] -H2/17:Grey, (-) Hood pin input (n/c or n/o). [don’t know if I need this, or where to connect] -H2/18:Violet / YELLOW, (-) 200mA Starter output. [don’t know where to connect this one] -H2/19:Blue, (-)Truck pin/instant trigger input (n/c or n/o). [don’t know if I need, or where to connect] -H2/20:Grey/Black, (-) Diesel Wait to start input. [I’m pretty sure I need this but don’t know where to connect] -H2/21:WHITE/ Blue, (-) Remote start/turbo timer activation input. [don’t know if I need or where to connect] -H2/22:Orange, (-) 200mA Accessory output. [Don’t know if I need, or where to connect] -H2/23:Violet/White, tachometer input. [probably need this, don’t know where to connect] -H2/24:GREEN / WHITE, (-) 200mA OEM alarm arm ouput. [don’t know where to connect] Remote Start, 10-pin heavy gauge connector -H3/1:Pink, (+) Ignition 1 input/output. [connected to RED / Green wire in ignition harness] -H3/2:RED / White, (+) Fused (30A) ignition 2 / Flex relay input 87. [don’t know if I need this] -H3/3:Orange, (+) Accessory Output. [connected to Blue/green wire in ignition harness] -H3/4:Violet, (+) Starter output (car side of the starter kill). [Don’t know where to connect this] -H3/5:Green, (+) Starter input (key side of the starter kill). [Don’t know where to connect this] -H3/6:Red, (+) Fused (30A)ignition 1 input. [Don’t know where to connect this] -H3/7:Pink/White, (+) Ignition 2/ Flex Relay output. [connected to RED / Black wire in ignition harness] -H3/8:Pink/Black, (+) Flex relay input 87a key side (if required) of flex relay. [don’t know if I need this] -H3/9:RED / Black, (+) Fused (30A) Accessory/Starter input. [don’t know if I need this] -H3/10: not used

-H2/8:BROWN / Black,(-)200mA Horn honk output. [Connected to (+) side of horn, did not work, need help]

Horn Trigger      Blue (-)   @ steering column or VSM     Be careful testing here, Ford has a bad habit of putting this wire with the airbag wires...

-H2/16:Brown, (+) Brake Shutdown Input. [don’t know what this is or where to connect it]

Brake Wire      Light Green (+)       @ brake pedal switch

-H2/17:Grey, (-) Hood pin input (n/c or n/o). [don’t know if I need this, or where to connect]

Install hood pin supplied in kit and connect this wire.

-H2/20:Grey/Black, (-) Diesel Wait to start input. [I’m pretty sure I need this but don’t know where to connect]

Use tech Tip 1091 or just set Viper to fixed 15 second WTS delay, Menu 3, Item 9, Opt 2.Link to TechTip 1091  :  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1016On the remote start, make sure to program the Accessory State During Wait To Start to ON.

You should use a Digital Multi Meter to test and verify these ignition wires....

-H3/1:Pink, (+) Ignition 1 input/output               [connected to RED / Light Green wire in ignition harness] -H3/2:RED / White, (+) Fused (30A) ignition 2 / Flex relay input 87.    Yellow @ Ign Harness -H3/3:Orange, (+) Accessory Output      connected to Dark Blue/Light Green wire in ignition harness] -H3/4:Violet, (+) Starter output (car side of the starter kill).       cut Dark Green @ IGN Harness-H3/5:Green, (+) Starter input (key side of the starter kill).      cut Dark Green @ IGN Harness-H3/6:Red, (+) Fused (30A)ignition 1 input.    connected to Yellow wire in ignition harness-H3/7:Pink/White, (+) Ignition 2/ Flex Relay output. [    connected to RED / Black wire in ignition harness]   Set Viper to Flex relay = ACC2-H3/8:Pink/Black, (+) Flex relay input 87a key side  of flex relay.       not used-H3/9:RED / Black, (+) Fused (30A) Accessory/Starter input.   connected to Light GREEN/ Purple wire in ignition harness-H3/10: not used

Have you gotten & used a plain metal key as an ignition key to verify you don't have a transponder immobilizer system?

Did the truck come with Factory Remote Keyless Entry?  This info will help connecting the power door locks.

Soldering is fun!

Thanks kreg357, Purchased the truck used, got a plain metal key. I know its not a transponder because I got a spare make at Lowes. The remote is a little black plastic remote with three buttons on it, lock, unlock, and panic. Please clarify a couple of thing for me. Ignition harness: is the harness at bottom of steering column Ignition: is the wires that come from the key My ignition harness has nine wires: Green GREEN/ purple 2 (two) solid yellow Grey / YELLOW Blue/orange Blue/green RED / black RED / green Your telling me that the right way to connect the alarm remote start is to connect all these wires at the IGN wire harness at bottom of steering column? Pink to RED / green RED / white to yellow (? which yellow there are two at the IGN harness) Orange to Blue/green Violet to cut dark green (Please explain "cut dark green", there is only one green. Green to cut dark green (Please explain "cut dark green", there is only one green. Red to yellow (which yellow there are to at the IGN harness) Pink/white to RED / black Pink/black not used RED / black to GREEN/ purple Sorry just making sure, don't want to blow up my truck. Thanks a bunch.

To do this properly, you will need to test each wire to verify its' function.  Here is what the wire

guides indicate for your truck.  You can connect the Viper's thick H3 wires to the trucks ignitionwires at any convenient place along the ignition harness after it leaves the ignition switch.

Dark Green          Starter

Light GREEN/ purple          +12V constant   2 (two) solid yellow          +12V constant both, we'll call them Yellow1 and Yellow2Grey / YELLOW           Accessory1 Blue/orange         not listedBlue/Light Green Accessory2           x     RED / black             Accessory3 (or Ignition2) xRED / Light Green Ignition1

Big question : Do the Gray / YELLOW and RED / Black wires share a ignition switch pin ( or are connected in some way )?

Viper     to    F350

Pink to RED / green Yes

RED / white to yellow1      YesOrange to Blue/Light Green       YesViolet to cut dark green    truck side   The Viper has a built-in Starter Kill relay circuit.  When the Viper is  Green to cut dark green   ign switch side     armed or in alarm, the ign key will not start the engine.Red to yellow2   YesPink/white to RED / black Yes ( maybe set to ACC2 )Pink/black not used         YesRED / black to GREEN/ purple           Yes

This setup would still leave the Gray / YELLOW ACC wire un-powered.  You will need an extra 30/40 Amp SPDT relay and

20 Amp fuse to power this ignition wire.  Use the Vipers H2/22 Orange wire as follows :Relay Pin 85 to Viper H2/22 Orange (-)200mA Accessory OutputRelay Pins 86 anf 87 to +12V constant  ( Light GREEN/ Purple ) thru 20A fuseRelay Pin 30 to truck Gray / YELLOWRelay Pin 87A not used - insulate

As you noted, it is very important to make good, soldered, connections to the correct wires.  Guessing won't work. 

Using a DMM ( or computer safe LED test light ) on the ignition wires is the only way to be sure.

Soldering is fun!

Thanks so much for the help. Big question : Do the Gray / YELLOW and RED / Black wires share a ignition switch pin ( or are connected in some way )? No, these two wires are not connected together, they both are attached to an individual connector on the IGN Harness. Also, Could you please explain "Relay pins", not clear on which pins you me and where they are located. Thanks again, Ed

If both the Gray / YELLOW and the Red Black wires join together at the same ignition switch connector pin, then you can connect the Vipers' output wire toeither one ( thicker one preferred ) and that will supply both with power during a remote start.  In this case you have made all the necessary ignition wireconnections and do not need an extra relay.Soldering is fun!

Hey there, My apologizes for being such a pain. I'm trying to find the key side green wire to attach my alarms remote start green wire (cut off key side green wire). I've tried using a volt meter to find it in the steering column with no luck. Is there any way you could point this out to me? Much appreciated.

Buy the way, just to confirm. All the ignition harness connections are in line connections with the exception of the Green key side cut off wire, right? The alarm green wire goes connected to the key side green wire right?

To do this properly, you will need to read up and understand relay operation.  This site has a nice relay section.

The trucks ignition switch connector has a Green Starter wire in it.  This wire leaves the ignition switch and travels to some circuits

in the truck.  Somewhere in or near the steering column, you will cut this Green Starter wire.  The Vipers H3/5 Green wire will besoldered to the cut Green wire side that goes to the ignition switch ( key side ).  The Vipers H3/4 Violet wire will be securely soldered to the cut Green Starter wire side that goes toward the trucks circuit ( vehicle side ).

Be aware that the Viper has other wire(s) that are Green so it is best to use the connector / pin location to identify the wires we

refer to.  Eliminates any confusion.

Soldering is fun!

Kregg if an extra relay IS required, DIODE DIODE DIODE DIODE