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xtu2 
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Posted: February 14, 2013 at 9:46 PM / IP Logged  

Greetings,

I am new here - first post! I have an Automate 552 installed in my 2000 Town Car, with a 514T DEI Viper alarm speaker installed under the hood that, appears to be, wired into the HONK (brown) wire of the Automate 552. My issue is that the siren goes 24/7 all of a sudden and sounds like its under water, very low audio. I thought it might be the alarm speaker, so I purchased a new one, same type, off eBay and installed it - no difference. I re-terminated the wire mating they original guy did with MOLEX connectors rather than those crimp connections (I wanted to ensure I had a tight connection). Still no change!

At this point I am not sure what the issue is here. For now I have disconnected the spaker. The alarm is not tripping on the car, so not sure whats going on. I would appreciate ANY help on this matter. I have listed a link to the Automate 552 installation manual for your reference should it aide anyone in providing me with next steps or a solution.

http://www.manualslib.com/manual/40067/Directed-Electronics-Automate-552.html

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Posted: February 15, 2013 at 12:31 AM / IP Logged  
the main ground for the alarm is bad or loose. if you are hearing a constant, low tone from the siren then this is usually the cause. check the ground connection and make sure it hasn't been broken off or rusted or damaged in any way.
xtu2 
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Posted: February 15, 2013 at 6:46 AM / IP Logged  

Good info thanks!

Since the alarm is tied into the DEI Automate 552, and that unit works fine (remote start works, features associated to the unit work, etc), should I only need to check the ground(black wire) that connects from the alarm speaker to the DEI Automate 552 unit?

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Posted: February 15, 2013 at 9:35 AM / IP Logged  
check the main ground on the automate
xtu2 
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Posted: February 19, 2013 at 7:20 AM / IP Logged  

I found the Automate ground, when I disconnected it the already diluted tone of the alarm got quieter. I suspect the issue is not the ground, thoughts? I re-terminated the ground cable just for the sake of trying, and bolted it to the other vehicle OEM chassis grounds (the original installed gave this wire it's own hole with a screw - something the Automate manual even tells you not to do!.

Next steps? If no one can suggest anything else I am thinking of taking it to Best Buy for them to resolve. I would like to avoid this though, it costs money :)

Looking forward to your responses :)

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Posted: February 19, 2013 at 10:02 AM / IP Logged  
Is the 514 T a battery back up?
If so swap for a regular cheaper siren just connect the ground as you re-connected it and the brown. If it's a battery back-up, those batteries have failed, else I'm with soundnsecurity on this one, worth while checking the voltage between the Automate side of its power fuses and ground.
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Thanks for the response!

I am not sure what you mean by battery backup. I did replace this siren with a brand new one, same exact model number, as I thought it could be a defective unit. The result was the same, which is what lead me to the12volt for expert guidance.

If however you ask if the 514T has a battery backup built in, the answer is no. It pulls power from the car battery via the DEI 552 system. It connects to the brown and black wire from the H1 harness out of the DEI, normally intended for connetcing to the horn.

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I would check voltage at the siren using the red and black wires as close to the siren as possible. You will have to set the alarm off to show voltage, but you should see at least 12volts. If you see anything less than 12volts then you can test each wire separately to see which is the culprit.
Kenny
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xtu2 
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Posted: February 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM / IP Logged  

Will try that today and report back.

What is the shelf life of these units? I found a new DEI 552T brain, like new, 20 miles north of me for sale. When the alarm was working, I used to have issues with it going off randomly, then stopping after a short period (1-2 minutes). I found this problem was more prominent during cold winter weather. I question if the brain unit has become defective, though it could just be a grounding issue I suppose.

As a side note, last night I was under the steering column where the 552T is placed, and the relays to the right I noticed one of the thick red wires with an inline fuse has a melted fuse. The inline fuse and fuse were literally melter together, forming this ugly "thing" of plastic with metal sticking out. Not sure when that happened or what. I am also not sure what effect this has on the system as a whole and/or the alarm issue. I cut the inline fuse out last night and there was no effect on the ystsems functionality. Not sure what it's for?

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Posted: February 20, 2013 at 7:21 PM / IP Logged  
Its sitting at 10.2v...
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