2012 honda civic compustar cs800-s + blade

Starting my second install, on a 2012 Honda Civic LX (Auto). Friend already has a Compustar CS800-S and I'm looking for a bypass. My first install was with a DEI product utilizing DBALL2, so I need a different bypass atm. Since it's a Compustar system, with the research I've tried to do, it seems that the idatalink BLADE AL bypass is the easiest/cleanest option? So a few questions, if I purchase the idatalink BLADE, I would need the idatalink connector (to program the Blade)- Autopage ADSUSB, would the DL-HA3 be the correct flash? Since the BLADE plugs into the remote start, would it be considered D2D connections (internally) Also, the connections I would need to make is Lock Unlock Ignition (+) CANL CANH Key data along with Parking Lights (-) and Rearm (Auto Lights), Starter, Accessory 1, Accessory 2, +12V, Ignition and Ground. Am I missing anything? Also is there any other bypass that would be easier/better for this application?misturnice

While the CS800-S R/S w/Keyless entry system is made by Compustar, it is their entry level system and does not have a Blade

docking port.  It can go D2D with the iDatalink ADS AL-CA bypass module.  If you wanted a Blade compatible unit, look at theCM7200-s or the older CM6200-s.  You will need an ADS USB cable and Flash site access to load the firmware and configure the options.

The iDatalink install guide does not show all the required R/S connections.  You still need to connect all the ignition circuits,

IGN1, Starter1, ACC1 & ACC2.  I recently installed a system on a 2013 Civic using the ADS AL-CA module w/ADS AL(DL) HA3 firmware  ( 2012 through 2015 are the same ).  Went very smoothly but that is S.O.P. for iDatalink modules.  

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For a 2012, using an idatalink alca won't save you a significant amount of time. Personally, for any 06-2013 I hardwire + honda-sl3 for the bypass portion. The only benefit you get from the alca is the tach. Tach is easily accessible in the engine bay. LX has no factory alarm, and you still to have to make 2 connections for the door locks in the kick. Might as well skip the alca, hardwire the locks from the starter and run a tach. Ted

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CN1 Main Harness 1     Red (+) 12V Constant   (+) +12 V, White Pin 1 2     GREEN / WHITE (+) Parking Light Output     NOT USED 3     RED / White (+) 12V Constant   (+) +12 V, White Pin 1 4     White (+) Accessory        (+) Accessory 1, Orange Pin 2 5     Blue (+) Selectable by jumper*** (+) Accessory 2, Red pin 3 6     Yellow (+) 12V Starter   (+) Starter, Yellow, pin 5 7     Green (+) 12V Ignition   (+) Ignition, Blue, pin 2 8     Black (-) Ground        Ground ***Change Jumper to Accessory*** CN2 1     GREEN / WHITE (-) Parking Light Output     (-) Parking Lights: White Connector Gray, pin 8 2     RED / Black (-) Starter Output   --wire to bypass (relay for +) Starter Output??? 3     WHITE/ Black (-) 2nd Accessory Output     not used??? 4     Black (-) Status Output (POC #1) Ground 5     Orange (-) Rearm Output (POC #2) (-) Parking Lights: White Connector Gray, pin 8 6     ORANGE / White (-) Disarm Output (POC #3)     --wire to Bypass (Brown) Disarm Input 7     White (-) Horn Output (POC#4) **where is the horn wire? 8     Gray/Black (-) Hood Pin Input --wire to Bypass Hood Status (-) Input 9     Light Blue/White (+) Foot Brake Input     --wire to Bypass Brake Status (-) Input 10     RED / White (-) Trigger Start Input not used?? 11     Red (+) Trigger Start Input   not used??? 12     Yellow/Black (+) Tach/Alt Sense Input     --wire to Bypass TACH (AC) Input CN3 – Lock Connector 1     None (+12V) Constant 2     Violet/White (-) Trunk Release --wire to Bypass Trunk (-) Output 3     ORANGE / Black (-) Driver’s Priority Unlock     ??? Where do I connect this?? 4     Blue (-) Unlock Output   --wire to Bypass Unlock (-) 5     Blue/Black (-) Lock Output   --wire to Bypass Lock (-) 6     None (-) Ground CN4 – 4-Pin (RS232 Port) Does this come with the remote start or the bypass? Or is this a separate purchase? Idatalink ADS-ACLA Bypass ADS-AL(DL)-HA3-EN D2D Cable – Does this come with the remote start of the bypass? Or is this a separate purchase? IF D2D is available // is covered by D2D (1-way remote start) Blue/White - GWR (-) Input   //Ground (Auto Transmission) Black – Ground //Ground Red – 12V (+) //12V (+) GREEN/ Black - Lock/Arm (-) Input //RS      CN3 Blue/Black (-) Lock Output Blue/Black – Unlock (-) Input   //RS     CN3 Blue (-) Unlock Output RED / White – Trunk (-) Input   //RS     CN3 Violet/White (-) Trunk Release Brown – Disarm (-) Input   //RS      CN2 ORANGE / White (-) Disarm Output (POC #3) PURPLE / Black – Ground (-) Input   Ground (to enable Auto Relock after Start) BLACK/ White – Starter (+) Input   //RS     CN2 RED / Black Starter (-) >> Relay for (+) Green – E-Brake Status (-) Output           What do I connect this to? PURPLE / White – Tach (AC) Output CN2 Yellow/Black Tach/Alt sense Input WHITE/ Black Bypass – GREEN/ Red – Door Lock WHITE/ Red – Unlock (-)        (-)Unlock: 16 pin Blue Connector, Grey, Pin 18 White – Lock (-) (-)Lock: 16 pin Blue Connector, Blue, Pin 11 Yellow/Black – Door Status (-) Output Remote Start does not have this? – not connected? Yellow/Red – Trunk Status (-) Output Remote Start does not have this? – not connected? Yellow – Hood Status (-) Output   Remote Start - Gray/Black (-) Hood Pin Input BROWN / Red – CANH        7-pin immobilizer connector – Pink, Pin 4 BROWN / Yellow – CANL        7-pin immobilizer connector – Blue, Pin 3 ORANGE / Black – Key Data   7-pin immobilizer connector – Lt. Green, Pin 6 Pink – Ignition (+) Input        7-pin immobilizer connector – Color?, Pin 2 GREEN/ Red – Door Lock        Bypass – WHITE/ Black Gray/Red – Brake Status (+) Output CN2 Light Blue/White (+) Foot Brake Input Is this all I need for W2W connections? Am I missing any connections? And is there any D2D cable that comes with either the bypass or remote start? misturnice

The ADS AL-CA bypass module will include the D2D harness.  While I have never tried it, the CS800-s is supposedly capable

of 2-way D2D communication with the iDatalink bypass module.  If you go D2D, there are no connections between the R/S andthe bypass module other than the D2D harness.

If you go W2W there are a few corrections to your chart.

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Can you provide me with the W2W corrections, just so I can have a back up in the event that the D2D does not work.misturnice

CN1 Main Harness

1     Red (+) 12V Constant         (+) +12 V, White Pin 1 2     GREEN / WHITE (+) Parking Light Output         NOT USED 3     RED / White (+) 12V Constant (+) +12 V, White Pin 1 4     White (+) Accessory (+) Accessory 1, Orange Pin 2 5     Blue (+) Selectable by jumper***        (+) Accessory 2, Red pin 3 6     Yellow (+) 12V Starter         (+) Starter, Yellow, pin 5     Also goes to ADS AL-CA BLACK/ White7     Green (+) 12V Ignition        (+) Ignition, Blue, pin 2 8     Black (-) Ground     Ground ***Change Jumper to Accessory***

CN2

1     GREEN / WHITE (-) Parking Light Output     (-) Parking Lights: White Connector, Gray, pin 8 2     RED / Black (-) Starter Output      not used 3     WHITE/ Black (-) 2nd Accessory Output   not used4     Black (-) Status Output (POC #1)           to ADS Blue/White GWR5     Orange (-) Rearm Output (POC #2)       not used 6     ORANGE / White (-) Disarm Output (POC #3)        wire to Bypass (Brown) Disarm Input 7     White (-) Horn Output (POC#4) orange (or pink) (-)   @ horn switch in steering column8     Gray/Black (-) Hood Pin Input    wire to Bypass Hood Status (-) Output9     Light Blue/White (+) Foot Brake Input    wire to Bypass Brake Status (+) Output10     RED / White (-) Trigger Start Input          not used11     Red (+) Trigger Start Input      not used 12     Yellow/Black (+) Tach/Alt Sense Input   wire to Bypass TACH (AC) Input CN3 – Lock Connector 1     None (+12V) Constant 2     Violet/White (-) Trunk Release wire to Bypass Trunk Release (-) Output 3     ORANGE / Black (-) Driver’s Priority Unlock not used 4     Blue (-) Unlock Output wire to Bypass Unlock (-) 5     Blue/Black (-) Lock Output        wire to Bypass Lock (-) 6     None (-) Ground

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Blue/White - GWR (-) Input //RS Black (-) Status Output Black – Ground       //Ground Red – 12V (+)          //12V (+)

GREEN/ Black - Lock/Arm (-) Input              //RS      CN3 Blue/Black (-) Lock Output

Blue/Black – Unlock (-) Input        //RS     CN3 Blue (-) Unlock Output RED / White – Trunk (-) Input          //RS     CN3 Violet/White (-) Trunk Release Brown – Disarm (-) Input //RS      CN2 ORANGE / White (-) Disarm Output (POC #3) PURPLE / Black – Ground (-) Input   Ground (to enable Auto Relock after Start) BLACK/ White – Starter (+) Input     //RS     CN1/6 Yellow Green – E-Brake Status (-) Output Not Used PURPLE / White – Tach (AC) Output   //RS      CN2 Yellow/Black Tach/Alt sense Input

WHITE/ Black   Bypass – GREEN/ Red – Door Lock

WHITE/ Red – Unlock (-)       //Civic  (-)Unlock: 16 pin Blue Connector, Grey, Pin 18 White – Lock (-)      //Civic  (-)Lock: 16 pin Blue Connector, Blue, Pin 11 *** This wire will be thinner gauge than Unlock wire, must test.

Yellow/Black – Door Status (-) Output          not connected

Yellow/Red – Trunk Status (-) Output not connectedYellow – Hood Status (-) Output       Remote Start - Gray/Black (-) Hood Pin Input   ** Only if Civic has factory hood pin.BROWN / Red – CANH   //Civic   7-pin immobilizer connector – Pink, Pin 4 BROWN / Yellow – CANL          //Civic   7-pin immobilizer connector – Blue, Pin 3 ORANGE / Black – Key Data     //Civic   7-pin immobilizer connector – Lt. Green, Pin 6 Pink – Ignition (+) Input         //Civic   7-pin immobilizer connector – Yellow, Pin 2 GREEN/ Red – Door Lock        Bypass – WHITE/ Black Gray/Red – Brake Status (+) Output             //RS CN2 Light Blue/White (+) Foot Brake Input

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Great Thanks! Starting to get the hang of itmisturnice

d2d on the cs800s works fine. I would do a software update though. Secondly, the unit comes defaulted for voltage sense which does not work on your vehicle. Switch it to tach and program.Ted

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