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2005 F-350 Diesel and 5706v 10 Pin Harness


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cj1026 
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Hey guys I was hoping I could get a little help. I've been reading around on the site and I'm still unsure.
I have a 2005 F350 diesel and I am installing a Viper 5706v.
I'm a little confused on the 10 pin harness.
This is how I am thinking of hooking it up.
RED / black + fused 12v accessory/starter input--->ACCESSORY /HEATER blower 1 gray / YELLOW +
pink/black + flex relay input 87a key side of flex relay---> NC
pink/white + ignition 2/flex relay output---> NC
red + fused 12v ignition 1 input---> ignition 1 WHITE/ yellow or RED / light green
green + starter input key side---> starter dark green, split this wire and this will be key side
violet + starter output starter side---> starter dark green, split this wire and this will be starter side
orange + accessory output---> ACCESSORY /HEATER blower 2 dark blue/light green
RED / white + fused 12v ignition 2/flex relay input 87---> ignition 2 RED / black
pink + ignition 1 input/output---> NC
I'm a bit confused with the pink and pink/white. Should I be using these instead?
I appreciate any help or input.
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Posted: February 09, 2015 at 9:36 AM / IP Logged  

There is conflicting info on the trucks ignition wires from the various wire guide listings.  You should use a DMM and verify all

the ignition wires yourself to be sure.  While it wasn't a diesel, I did a Pictorial on a 2002 F250 5.4 V-8 Super Duty that should help.
Here is a link :  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=133810    On that vehicle I found ( and powered during
R/S ) two Ignition's, two Accessory's and one Starter wire.  You would need an additional relay to duplicate that with your Viper.
Anyway, depending on what you find, ReadyRemote has this info :
12volts          lt. GREEN/ purple (30A)    +     ignition switch, gray 13 pin plug, pin 9
Starter           dk. green  +           ignition switch, gray 13 pin plug, pin 5  
Ignition          RED / lt. green  +       ignition switch, gray 13 pin plug, pin 1  
Accessory     gray / YELLOW  +        ignition switch, gray 13 pin plug, pin 8  
Second Accessory    RED / black  +           ignition switch, gray 13 pin plug, pin 13

Going with the above info and matching it up to your Viper H3 harness looks like this :

       Viper H3    2005 F350  @ ignition switch harness
1 NC No Connection   not used
2 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED 12V ACC/STARTER INPUT          lt. GREEN/ purple (30A)
3 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A   not used
4 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY * set to ACC2             RED / black  +  
5 RED (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT    lt. GREEN/ purple (30A)
6 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE) dk. green  + 
7 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)         dk. green  + 
8 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT        gray / YELLOW  +
9 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2   lt. GREEN/ purple (30A)
10 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT      RED / lt. green  +  

Soldering is fun!
cj1026 
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Posted: February 09, 2015 at 9:46 AM / IP Logged  
Kreg thank you for the reply.
I have verified the wires I have in the truck with a DMM. I do have 1 starter wire, 2 ignition wires and 2 accessory wires. So how does that effect the wiring?
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Posted: February 09, 2015 at 10:01 AM / IP Logged  

On the truck in the Pictorial, the wires tested as :

Starter = Dark Green
IGN1 = RED / Lt Green
IGN2 = RED / Black
ACC1 = Gray / YELLOW
ACC2 = Dk Blue/Lt Green

The Viper connections for that would be :

1 NC No Connection   not used
2 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED 12V ACC/STARTER INPUT          Lt. GREEN/ Purple (30A)
3 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A   not used
4 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY * set to IGN2             RED / Black  +  
5 RED (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT   Yellow #1
6 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE) Dk. Green  + 
7 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)         Dk. Green  + 
8 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT        Gray / YELLOW  +
9 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2   Yellow #2
10 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT      RED / Lt. Green  +  

That would leave the Dk Blue/Lt Green ACC2 wire.  For that you would use a relay with 25 Amp inline fuse, wired as below :

Relay Pin 85 to Viper Pin 23 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V constant through 25 Amp fuse
Relay Pin 30 to ACC2 Dk Blue/Lt Green @ ignition harness

Soldering is fun!
cj1026 
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Posted: February 09, 2015 at 10:50 AM / IP Logged  
Kreg thank you so much.
Do I need to use a diode like in your write up? Or is that for something different?
Again thank you for your help and time.
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Posted: February 09, 2015 at 12:16 PM / IP Logged  
The diode is protection for the Viper on it's Orange (-) 200mA Accessory Output wire.  With the wire coming on, then going off during cranking and then back on after the engine is running, there could be a coil collapse spike generated.  I would add the diode, cheap insurance.
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cj1026 
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Posted: February 09, 2015 at 12:37 PM / IP Logged  
Thank you I will add the diode. Like you said, cheap insurance.
I have one issue with the alarm portion I'm also unsure of.
I do have the alarm side of the 5706v hooked up. I can lock/unlock, arm/un arm with the remote.
When I drove into work this morning, parked and hit the lock button it locked and armed. Then a second later it showed "door open" on the remote. A second later it went away.
Do you know why it would show door open?
tedmond 
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Posted: February 09, 2015 at 3:09 PM / IP Logged  
your door trigger input is most likely active due to the positive dome light wire.
In programming Menu 2 Item 4 change to Option 2
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cj1026 
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Posted: February 09, 2015 at 3:14 PM / IP Logged  
Got it Ted. Thank you.
cj1026 
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Posted: February 09, 2015 at 9:02 PM / IP Logged  
Kreg thank you for all your help.
I just finished everything up tonight and it works perfect.
Couldn't have done it without your help.
Thank you

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