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bryan0129 
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Posted: December 13, 2015 at 5:09 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote bryan0129
Gentlemen, sorry to post another remote start thread, but I am racking my brain trying to fix this after searching all through the forum. Guy I bought the 2004 F250 6.0 from had his kid wire this Viper 5906V Alarm/Remote Start, obviously from asking you guys it never worked and a shop wont touch it around here except to tell me that all the parts I have work; ie - alarm/remote start body, switches, sensors, etc...
I am trying to piece this together with your help. The door lock function, siren works.
I have a identified the following wires in the ignition.
Const. 12V - Yel (there are multiple const 12v)
Starter - Green
Ignition - Wht/Yel - (Only Ignition wire)
Acc - Gray/Yel, RED / Blk, Blue/Grn
Forgive my ignorance, but I trying to see whats wrong. This is what I see hooked up right now.
Remote Start Harness
1 No Connection at this port
2 (+) Fused 12V Accessory/Starter Input - Linked with #6
3 (+) Flex Relay Input 87A key side (if required) of Flex Relay - Not Connected
4 (+) Ignition 2/Flex Relay Output - Not Connected
5 (+) Fused 12V Ignition 1 Input - On Ign (wht/yel)
6 (+) Starter Input (key side of starter kill) - On Starter wire before break
7 (+) Starter Output (car side of starter kill) - On Starter wire after break
8 (+) Accessory Output - Not Connected
9 (+) Fused 12V Ignition 2/ Flex Relay Input 87 - Not Connected
10 (+) Ignition 1 Input/Output - On Ign (wht/yel)
Right now when connected to module, it says "Remote Start not available"
A lot of wires in the auxillery harness are not used.
I see the wires to brake pedal, tach wire (grn/wht).
I appreciate any help. I would say it is the Ignition 1 wires, but that would be a uneducated guess, lol.
howie ll 
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Posted: December 14, 2015 at 9:05 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
Without looking too hard connect #9 with #2 and #6.
bryan0129 
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Posted: December 14, 2015 at 9:09 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote bryan0129
I'm willing to try anything. Will let you know shortly on the outcome.
howie ll 
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Posted: December 14, 2015 at 9:11 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
These vehicles are unknown in Europe but that one was obvious and a common mistake.
howie ll 
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Posted: December 14, 2015 at 9:29 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
Green from the 24 pin should be connected to door switches, if not ground for the following.
Open a door, turn ign. on and then off.
Within 5 seconds press and hold the valet switch. (on the antenna/control centre).
Siren should chirp once, then twice. then three times.
Release immediately then press 8 times, release and hold. You should get 8 chirps.Keep pressing your "arm" button on the remote until you get 2 chirps.
Turn on and off ignition.
You've now turned your pink/white second ignition into a second ACC.
Now connect your Orange #8 to vehicle grey / YELLOW.
And your pink/white #4 to vehicle RED / black.
Take the thin orange on your 24 pin plug to a standard 4 or 5 pin automotive relay.
Orange to 85
Constant 12 volt+ fused 30 amps to 86 and 87.
30 to dark blue/light green. If 5 pin, don't use and insulate 87a.
Diode 1N4004 across 86 and 85, diode band to 86.
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bryan0129 
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Posted: December 14, 2015 at 12:02 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote bryan0129
What is the purpose behind the thin orange wire on the 24 pin plug. It is a (-) 200mA Accessory Output.
howie ll 
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Posted: December 14, 2015 at 12:08 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
You have THREE accessory wires on that vehicle. #8 thick orange will power one.
After programming as described pink/white #4 will power the second.
Using the thin orange on the 24 pin plug will trigger the described relay to power the third.
bryan0129 
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Posted: December 14, 2015 at 5:01 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote bryan0129
Ok. Everything is wired according to what was discussed. Remote still says "Remote Start not available" when remote start is pressed. Is there something that has to be triggered to activate the remote start? Like I said earlier, the auxillery harness is barely used.
howie ll 
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Posted: December 14, 2015 at 5:16 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
You now have to learn tach program the unit for an auto if automatic transmission and set up for tach.
Start engine, within 5 seconds press and hold valet button. Blue light should come on on control centre, that means tach learned.
Change to auto.
Green from the 24 pin should be connected to door switches, if not ground for the following.
Open a door, turn ign. on and then off.
Within 5 seconds press and hold the valet switch. (on the antenna/control centre).
Siren should chirp once, then twice. then three times.
Release immediately then press once, release and hold. You should get 1 chirps.Keep pressing your "arm" button on the remote until you get 2 chirps.
Turn on and off ignition.
Green from the 24 pin should be connected to door switches, if not ground for the following.
Open a door, turn ign. on and then off.
Within 5 seconds press and hold the valet switch. (on the antenna/control centre).
Siren should chirp once, then twice. then three times.
Release immediately then press twice, release and hold. You should get 2 chirps.Keep pressing your "arm" button on the remote until you get 4 chirps.
Turn on and off ignition.
That's your lot follow my suggestions, it should work though I think you need professional help.
bryan0129 
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Posted: December 14, 2015 at 5:45 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote bryan0129
Progress, I guess. It activated, turned on accessories, did not attempt to start, then flash a low tach signal.
I have taken it to a shop. They said they would not finish someone else's project. I wouldn't blame them. I am just trying to fix this kids project since I bought the truck. Got a great deal on the truck though so I'm willing to go through some hassle for this. Lol.
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