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cruzan69 
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What is the proper way to install a battery backup siren to an existing alarm?
I intially connected it to the +,- wires for the current siren and used the neg trigger line but when I activated the unit I was unable to shut it off using my remote.
Next I tried hooking it up directly to the constant +12v line powering the alarm and the ground along with the same neg trigger. It had more power and was louder but had the same result as before. Am I using the correct hook up? Should I be using a + trigger instead? What about this unit draining my battery, would a relay help somewhere in the install? I'm considering using this unit in addition to my current siren.
SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!
My current alarm is an Audiovox APS400 in my 2001 S10.
Thanks for your help.
draasch 
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the way they work, is the red to 12v...blk to ground....if the the power is lost the siren will trigger and run until the battery dies or you shut it off with the key.......if you use the purple wire (+)and hok it up the alarm siren output, the siren will trigger but not shut off until you use the key.....at least thats the way the ones from omega work......
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What brand is the BB siren? How many wires are coming out of the harness?
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cruzan69 
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I was told that it was a Crimestopper unit when I bought it off of Ebay. The unit has 4 wires. 2 are +,- and the other 2 are for +,- triggers. When I hooked it up initially it was using the +,- from the current siren which didn't seem to provide it with enough juice so I hooked it up to the same constant 12v feeding the brain and - .This way made it sound much louder so I assumed that this aspect of the hook up was correct. Now when I hooked up the trigger I spiced in to the - trigger being used by the alarm. I don't think the truck has a + trigger. Anyway, When this was complete I reattached the battery and turned the siren on using the key. It started wailing away and wouldn't shut down unless I used the key again. Meanwhile, during my failed attempts at using the alarm remote to shut it down, I could see the led for the alarm responding normally and flasing the parking lights twice as if the alarm itself was shutting down. Only thing was the siren wasn't. What an I doing wrong? This is really getting to me!  Could someone please go to the audiovox website and click on installation manual and tell me what wires you would use to install this siren? I believe I used the brown wire for the - trigger. Thank you in advance for bearing with me. By the way the truck is a 2001 S10 4.3L.

http://www.audiovox.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productid=608&langId=-1

draasch 
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thats the way it works. its not designed to work as the primary siren. when the alarm is triggered, you can send a - or + pulse to sound the siren. once it starts sounding, it will run until you use the key to shut it off. thats so someone cant cut the main power and shut the alarm down......
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What are the colors of the wire(s).
cruzan69 
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draasch wrote:
thats the way it works. its not designed to work as the primary siren. when the alarm is triggered, you can send a - or + pulse to sound the siren. once it starts sounding, it will run until you use the key to shut it off. thats so someone cant cut the main power and shut the alarm down......

So are you saying that I hooked it up properly based on my description?

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Teken wrote:
What are the colors of the wire(s).

On the siren? I believe that they are blue and white plus the norm black & red. I am at work now and can't quite remember the color codes, but I believe blue is - trigger and white is + trigger.

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Would this siren place a constant drain on my battery thus killing it?

Are any relays needed in this system to prevent any problems? Please say no.

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no. the siren will use the - or + to trigger it....it is not using the siren output from the alarm to power it......the back-up siren will run until the battery inside of it dies......not sure which one will die first...im sure it will be the siren one...
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