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halfrican 
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Posted: October 06, 2004 at 5:47 PM / IP Logged  
Hello All,
Just had an AstroStart 4204 remote start installed in my 2001 Cadillac Seville STS. Installer used the Peripheral GMDL-BP module to interface with my factory remote keyless entry and to bypass the Passkey III. The module is successfully locking and unlocking my doors and bypassing the Passkey III, but doesn't appear to be able to trigger the Memory Seat/Mirror functions of the car as it advertises that it does.
Installer has double checked the programming of the module, and even attempted to swap it out with a new one, but to no avail.
Anyone have any experience working with these or similar modules on a Seville STS of a similar year?
Also installer used one of the accessory outputs of the remote start to trigger the rear window defrost (8 minute cycle), but it doesn't appear to heat the mirrors and doesn't lite up the button on the HVAC. He accessed the defrost under the rear seat using a purple wire if I remember correctly. Any other ideas on what might be missing?
Thanks in advance,
Mark
(Alaska)
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Ask him how the rear defroster was interfaced, and at what point in the circuit.
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EVIL Teken . . .
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DIRECTWIRE™ WIRING INFORMATION - CADILLAC / SEVILLE / 2001 / Remote Start
12volts orange or orn/blk    +   ignition harness
Notes: This is a low current 12V source that should not be used to drive any high current positive circuits.
The ignition harness is accessed by removing, but not unplugging the radio.
Starter yellow    +   ignition harness
Notes: The ignition harness is accessed by removing, but not unplugging the radio.
Second Starter          
Ignition pink    +   ignition harness
Notes: The ignition harness is accessed by removing, but not unplugging the radio.
Second Ignition white    +   ignition harness
Notes: The ignition harness is accessed by removing, but not unplugging the radio.
Third Ignition          
Accessory orange    +   ignition harness
Notes: The ignition harness is accessed by removing, but not unplugging the radio.
Second Accessory brown    +   ignition harness
Notes: The ignition harness is accessed by removing, but not unplugging the radio.
Keysense          
Power Lock RED / black    -   drivers door lock switch
Notes: Can also use Directed 456B interface module.
Power Unlock ORANGE / black    -   drivers door lock switch
Notes: Can also use Directed 456B interface module.
Lock Motor gray      drivers door module
Notes: The drivers door module is located above the speaker in the drivers door.
Unlock Motor tan      drivers door module
Notes: The drivers door module is located above the speaker in the drivers door.
Parking Lights+ do not use       
Parking Lights- BROWN / white      DIM module
Notes: The DIM module is located just in front of the blower motor near the passenger kick. It has three connectors that all exit out of the bottom of the module.
Hazards          
Turn Signal(L)          
Turn Signal(R)          
Reverse Light          
Door Trigger      -     
Notes: The drivers door trigger wire is tan at the drivers door module, and the other door triggers are dk. blue at their respective door modules.
Dome Supervision gray    -   underdash light
Trunk/Hatch Pin black    -   RIM module
Notes: The RIM module is located behind the rear seat in the lower corner on the passenger side.
Hood Pin          
Trunk/Hatch Release lt. blue    -   RIM module
Notes: The RIM module is located behind the rear seat in the lower corner on the passenger side.
Power Sliding Door          
Factory Alarm Arm          
Factory Alarm Disarm lt. green    -   drivers door module
Notes: The drivers door module is located above the speaker in the drivers door.
Disarm No Unlock          
Tachometer PURPLE / white      ign. coil on top of motor
Wait to start          
Brake Wire white    +   low in drivers kick
Parking Brake          
Horn Trigger black    -   DIM module
Notes: The DIM module is located just in front of the blower motor near the passenger kick. It has three connectors that all exit out of the bottom of the module.
Memory Seat 1          
Memory Seat 2          
Memory Seat 3          
Immobilizer Bypass Module: Required: Yes Type: Passkey 3 Part #: 555G, 556U, or 555U
Notes: N/A
There are (2) accessory wires that need to be powered as well. Ask the installer to confirm both are connected and powered during the RS.
Regards
EVIL Teken . . .
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Posted: October 06, 2004 at 6:10 PM / IP Logged  
Teken wrote:
DIRECTWIRE™ WIRING INFORMATION - CADILLAC / SEVILLE / 2001 / Remote Start
12volts orange or orn/blk    +   ignition harness
Notes: This is a low current 12V source that should not be used to drive any high current positive circuits.
The ignition harness is accessed by removing, but not unplugging the radio.
Starter yellow    +   ignition harness
Notes: The ignition harness is accessed by removing, but not unplugging the radio.
Second Starter          
Ignition pink    +   ignition harness
Notes: The ignition harness is accessed by removing, but not unplugging the radio.
Second Ignition white    +   ignition harness
Notes: The ignition harness is accessed by removing, but not unplugging the radio.
Third Ignition          
Accessory orange    +   ignition harness
Notes: The ignition harness is accessed by removing, but not unplugging the radio.
Second Accessory brown    +   ignition harness
Notes: The ignition harness is accessed by removing, but not unplugging the radio.
Keysense          
Power Lock RED / black    -   drivers door lock switch
Notes: Can also use Directed 456B interface module.
Power Unlock ORANGE / black    -   drivers door lock switch
Notes: Can also use Directed 456B interface module.
Lock Motor gray      drivers door module
Notes: The drivers door module is located above the speaker in the drivers door.
Unlock Motor tan      drivers door module
Notes: The drivers door module is located above the speaker in the drivers door.
Parking Lights+ do not use       
Parking Lights- BROWN / white      DIM module
Notes: The DIM module is located just in front of the blower motor near the passenger kick. It has three connectors that all exit out of the bottom of the module.
Hazards          
Turn Signal(L)          
Turn Signal(R)          
Reverse Light          
Door Trigger      -     
Notes: The drivers door trigger wire is tan at the drivers door module, and the other door triggers are dk. blue at their respective door modules.
Dome Supervision gray    -   underdash light
Trunk/Hatch Pin black    -   RIM module
Notes: The RIM module is located behind the rear seat in the lower corner on the passenger side.
Hood Pin          
Trunk/Hatch Release lt. blue    -   RIM module
Notes: The RIM module is located behind the rear seat in the lower corner on the passenger side.
Power Sliding Door          
Factory Alarm Arm          
Factory Alarm Disarm lt. green    -   drivers door module
Notes: The drivers door module is located above the speaker in the drivers door.
Disarm No Unlock          
Tachometer PURPLE / white      ign. coil on top of motor
Wait to start          
Brake Wire white    +   low in drivers kick
Parking Brake          
Horn Trigger black    -   DIM module
Notes: The DIM module is located just in front of the blower motor near the passenger kick. It has three connectors that all exit out of the bottom of the module.
Memory Seat 1          
Memory Seat 2          
Memory Seat 3          
Immobilizer Bypass Module: Required: Yes Type: Passkey 3 Part #: 555G, 556U, or 555U
Notes: N/A

There are (2) accessory wires that need to be powered as well. Ask the installer to confirm both are connected and powered during the RS.

Regards
EVIL Teken . . .

Thanks for the quick reply, I will show this to installer.  Do you have any experience with the Peripheral GMDL-DP interface/bypass module?  Should it not be activating the memory seat function thru the databus connection?

thanks,

Mark

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I beleive on the Module U can program OPTIONS by the Program / Option button............
They have a Tech service 1 800 477-2267
MO
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halfrican 
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mo12v wrote:
I beleive on the Module U can program OPTIONS by the Program / Option button............
They have a Tech service 1 800 477-2267

Made sure that module was set to Mode 3 (Seville) didn't seem to help.  It's acting like it is working cause of the door locks and trunk release, but still doesn't activate memory seat/mirrors.

Tech support not very helpful.

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I know you set the Module to Mode 3, but I think there is another setting for OPTIONS......Do U have insstructions?
I thought U set your Mode # (vehicle) 1st....then Option # next
I would try Tech again, and definitly get the Techs NAME.........
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halfrican 
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mo12v wrote:
I know you set the Module to Mode 3, but I think there is another setting for OPTIONS......Do U have insstructions?
I thought U set your Mode # (vehicle) 1st....then Option # next
I would try Tech again, and definitly get the Techs NAME.........

Instructions for options:

1) Domelight Polarity

2) Unlock Mode (unlock drivers/unlock all)

3) Reset

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So far I've found that none of the modules control anything but locl/unlock arm/diarm bypass and trunk when applicable. I have not seen one yet the does memory seats, heated seats etc.
Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
halfrican 
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extreme1 wrote:
So far I've found that none of the modules control anything but locl/unlock arm/diarm bypass and trunk when applicable. I have not seen one yet the does memory seats, heated seats etc.

Strange since the website specifically says that it will.

Mark


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