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wander

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Posted: October 24, 2004 at 3:25 PM / IP Logged

Hi their, I'm having some stupid issues with my new viper system, as soon as I connect the battery my car instantly wants to start and when it does the starter keeps cranking, I pulled the fuses on the 12 volt constant leads and connected the battery, and when I replace 1 fuse its all good but the other 12 volt constant lead turns my radio on, fuel pump, and starter. My car is a 95 t-bird, 4.6 LX. Can someone please helpme out. I've hooked up the tachometer and the only thing I can assume is the turn off switch but that should be to simple.

draasch

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Posted: October 24, 2004 at 3:30 PM / IP Logged

Make: Ford

Model: Thunderbird

Year: 1994-95

Alarm

Constant 12 volts BLACK/ ORANGE (5) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition 12 volts RED / LIGHT GREEN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Starter RED / LIGHT BLUE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Dome Light BLACK/ LT BLUE OR GRAY (+) EITHER PIN SWITCH *

Trunk Pin Switch L GREEN/ YELLOW (-) AT TRUNK LIGHT (METER FOR RIGHT ONE)

Parking Lamp BROWN (+) HEADLIGHT SWITCH OR DRIVER KICK PANEL

Power Lock PINK / YELLOW PASSENGER KICK PANEL OR #203

Power Unlock PINK/LIGHT GREEN BEHIND GLOVE BOX ** #201

Remote Start

Tach Signal ORANGE / WHITE AT IGNITION CONTROL MODULE *

Ignition #2 GRAY / YELLOW (2) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS ** #235

Ignition #3 GRAY / YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS **

Accessory BLACK/ LIGHT GREEN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS **

Neutral Safety NOT GROUNDING TYPE - OEM SWITCH OPENS STARTER CIRCUIT

Brake Light LIGHT GREEN (+) SWITCH ON TOP OF BRAKE PEDAL SUPPORT

Reverse Light BLACK/ PINK (+) SWITCH ON DRIVER REAR OF TRANSMISSION

Rear Window Defrost

* Ignition Control Module Located On Passenger Wheelwell. ORANGE / WHITE Located At Pin #2. ** See Tech Notes For Ignition Switch Layout. #235- See Powering Extra Ignitions Diagram

* With OEM Keyless Entry Dome Light Wire Is GRAY (+),Without BLACK/ L BLU (+). ** Without OEM Keyless Entry See Note #203, With OEM Keyless Entry See Note #201. It Is Common For Lock & Unlock Wire Colors To Reverse. #203- See Reversal Rest At Ground Door Lock Diagram (Must Test From Pass. Sw) #201- See Negative Pulse Door Lock Diagram.

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97gss

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Posted: October 24, 2004 at 6:31 PM / IP Logged

have you tried turning off or disarming the alarm after you hook up the power wire?

wander

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Posted: October 24, 2004 at 7:46 PM / IP Logged

If I grounded the neutral safety switch, would it cause this to happen

draasch

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Posted: October 24, 2004 at 7:49 PM / IP Logged

is there a wire on the unit that is ude for - input that will send the unit into remote start mode?????

some units have a wire that if it sees a neg ground, it will go into remote start.....double check all your wires or post the diagram and how you have them hooked up.....

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David

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sroth140

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Posted: October 25, 2004 at 2:15 AM / IP Logged

are you talking about connecting the main battery cable under the hood and it cranks? or you hit remote start and it cranks? most of the time you connect the small BLACK/ white to the toggle switch and ground it. turn the switch off and connect the battery, then turn the switch back on. will it remote start normally after that? if it tries to crank right away you have an ignition output hooked up to the starter wire.

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wander

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Posted: October 25, 2004 at 5:06 PM / IP Logged

yeah, I grounded the toggle switch and I've turned it off but she still wants to crank. My book says that purple is the starter crank wire and that green is the anti-grind. I disconnected the crank wire and hooked up power to the modules and as soon as I did that purple wire starts getting 12 volts. I'll go double check that harness though and see what I get.

wander

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Posted: October 25, 2004 at 5:30 PM / IP Logged

Ok I just went andouble checked that my crank wire is purple,however a problem that I wasn't even paying attention to,is that my + Ignition out wire(PINK) is reading 12 volts aswell and so is my +Accesory output wire.(Orange) However my +Second Ignition wire,(Pink/White) which I'm not using is reading 0.00V as well as my Anti-grind(green).

kgerry

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Posted: October 25, 2004 at 5:46 PM / IP Logged

check to see if the WHITE/ blue is grounded as David suggested...this will give you this problem

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wander

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Posted: October 25, 2004 at 11:34 PM / IP Logged

They're all grounded real good at the driverside kick panel. I went and swapped the the brain modular system, and I get the same thing. I tested the on/off switch and its workin good. I'm going to maybe just rip it all out and start all over again. I'm really appreciating all the suggestions though.

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