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admtl 
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Posted: November 12, 2004 at 10:33 PM / IP Logged  
Hi!
I have a 98 Paseo, manual transmission, and I'm trying to install a Predator 4001 remote engine starter system. Since I don't have the wiring diagram of the car, I have encountered a few problems and I would really appreciate any information that would help:
1. I'm not able to locate the factory immobilizer's disarm wire. Browsing the forum, I saw that for the 97 version this wire is a WHITE/ Blue (-) wire at the Anti-Theft Module behind the radio. I've searched for this module and I've found a black one in that location that carries the inscription "Relays Assy / Running Lights". Is this the one, 'cause it seems that it's the only module in that area ? If so, for the 98 Paseo, there is no WHITE/ Blue wire for Factory Disarm, and no WHITE/ Green wire that would arm the immobilizer. However, I saw 2 WHITE/ Black wires, one next to the other, but... Could anyone tell me which wire to use, please ?
Predator provides a disarm (-) output wire that gives a 0.75 second ground output and an arm (-) output wire that can be programmed to give a single 2 second (-) output pulse or 2 pulses. Would this normally suffice ?
2. The Predator 4001 provides a wire (PINK) for the ignition. The 98 Paseo has 2 ignition wires: ignition 1 (BLACK / YELLOW) and ignition 2 (BLACK/ Red). I measured the tension on ingnition 2 with the key out of the contact, and I've got a +12V (?!).
The manual for Predator says, and I quote:
"Ignition
Most vehicles have only one ignition wire. If an additional wire is required to remote start the vehicle, a 30/40 amp relay must be added. Do not use the PINK wire to power more than one ignition wire.
- use a voltmeter to locate the wire(s) that show +12 volts while the ignition key is in the "ON", "CRANK" and "RUN" positions and 0 volts when the ignition key is in the "OFF" position.
- Connect the PINK wire to the vehicle ignition wire."
Now, how should I use the 30/40 amp relay for the second ignition wire, since this ignition wire already shows +12 volts when the ignition key is out ? Or this wire actually doesn't need to be tapped in, in order to remote start the car ?
3. Regarding the tach wire, I just want to be sure I got the right connector (see the other postings regarding the connector located near the driver's shock / strut tower): is it the third (BLACK/ Blue) wire from the bottom of the connector, when the connector is plugged in ?
I would like to thank everyone for their time spent to read my post and for your reply.
Winter is coming fast and I would really like to finish installing this starter! ;-)
Dorian
snguyen 
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Posted: November 12, 2004 at 10:37 PM / IP Logged  

ItemWire ColorPolarityWire Location
12VBLACK/ red+ignition harness
STARTERblack+ignition harness
IGNITIONblue/red+ignition harness
ACCESSORYBLACK / YELLOW+ignition harness
SECOND ACCESSORYBLACK/ white+ignition harness
TACHOMETERBLACK/ blueignitor *1
POWER LOCKGREEN / WHITE-passengers kick
POWER UNLOCKRED / white-passengers kick
PARKING LIGHTS +greendrivers kick panel
PARKING LIGHTS -lt. greensteering column
DOOR TRIGGERRED / yellow-2 pin plug in fusebox
HEADLIGHTSRED / blue-steering column *2
WIPERS
LF WINDOW UP/DNred - greenAdriver door switch
RF WINDOW UP/DNblu/red - blu/yelAin drivers door or DKP
LR WINDOW UP/DN
RR WINDOW UP/DN
TRUNK/HATCH PINRED / yel-anti-theft module *3
HOOD PINlt. GREEN/ black-anti-theft module *3
TRUNK/HATCH RELEASE
FACTORY ALARM ARMarms with lock
FACTORY ALARM DISARMdisarms with unlock
HORN TRIGGERGREEN/ YELLOW-steering column *2
BRAKE WIREGREEN / WHITE-steering column *2
LOCK MOTORnonenonnone
UNLOCK MOTORnonenonnone
DISARM DEFEATnonenonnone
DISARM NO UNLOCKnonenonnone
DOME SUPERVISIONnonenonnone
SPEED SENSEnonenonnone
SUN ROOF OPEN/CLOSEnonenonnone
SUN ROOF LIMITnonenonnone
LF SPEAKERnonenonnone
RF SPEAKERnonenonnone
LR SPEAKERnonenonnone
RR SPEAKERnonenonnone
RADIO 12Vnonenonnone
RADIO GROUNDnonenonnone
RADIO SWITCHnonenonnone
RADIO ILLUMINATEnonenonnone
POWER ANTENNAnonenonnone
 
Notes:*1 The ignitor is located in the left rear of the engine compartment. *2 Also found at the anti-theft module. *3 The anti-theft module is located in the drivers kick panel to the left of the fuse box.

snguyen 
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Posted: November 12, 2004 at 10:39 PM / IP Logged  

Toyota

Paseo

1996-1998

Remote Starter  Wiring Colors and Notes

Function

 

Vehicle  Color

Location

Start:

 

BLACK

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition  #1:

 

BLACK/ WHITE

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition #2:

 

BLUE/RED

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition  #3:

 

N/A

Accessory:

 

BLACK / YELLOW

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Brake  Light:

 

GREEN / WHITE (+)

AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL

Tach  Signal:

 

BLACK/ BLUE

AT IGNITER ON DR. STRUT TOWER

Parking Lights:

 

GREEN (+)

# PIN CONNECTOR AT FUSE BLOCK *

Headlights:

 

RED / BLUE (-)

AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH **

OEM Alarm  Disarm:

 

WHITE/ BLUE (-)

4 PIN CONNECTOR IN DR. KICK PANEL

OEM Alarm  Arm:

 

WHITE/ GREEN (-)

# PIN CONNECTOR IN DR. KICK PANEL

Diesel  Glow Plug:

 

Clutch  Bypass Wire:

 

Notes:

 

Toyota

Paseo

1996-1998

Alarm and Keyless  Entry Wiring Colors and Notes

Function

 

Vehicle  Color

Location

Constant  +12 Volts:

 

WHT/GRN & BLK/RED

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Starter  Kill:

 

BLACK

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition  +12 Volts:

 

BLACK/ WHITE

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Dome  Lights/Superv:

 

RED / YELLOW (-)

2 PIN CONNECTOR AT FUSE BLOCK *

OEM Horn:

 

GREEN/ YELLOW (-)

STEERING COLUMN HARNESS

Power  Lock:

 

RED / YELLOW

# PIN CONN. IN DRIVER'S KICK **

Power  Unlock:

 

GREEN/ YELLOW

# PIN CONN. IN DRIVER'S KICK **

Trunk  Release:

 

N/A

Alarm  Input Wire:

 

RED / YELLOW (-)

2 PIN CONNECTOR AT FUSE BLOCK *

Notes:

* Fuse Block Located In Driver Kick Panel. ** Child Safety Locks: PINK/BLUE (-) In Same Conn. As Door Lock Wires Above. See Note
admtl 
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Posted: November 12, 2004 at 10:59 PM / IP Logged  
Thank you snguyen! You were really fast !!!
It seems that the colours for the wires at the ignition switch harness have changed between them from 97 to 98...
I'll also look for the arm / disarm wires at the kick panel.
Thanks man, you were great !
nava94 
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Posted: November 12, 2004 at 11:54 PM / IP Logged  
The arm and disarm wires for that vehicle should be at the driver kickpanel. You could also test them with you digital meter by inserting your key in the driver key cylinder when you lock or unlock you will get your reading on your meter. is your car automatic or stick? if it's stick hope your careful when you remote start it, don't leave it in gear. for your second ignition you could wire a relay and use the same output for the 1st ignition to trigger your relay for your second ignition to get energized. good luck on your install.
admtl 
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Posted: November 13, 2004 at 12:17 AM / IP Logged  
Hi nava94 ! Thank you.
I'll do my best not to forget to leave the stick on neutral (I'm aware that otherwise this would cause a disaster...) and I'll also hope that the brakes won't get stuck when there'll be minus 40 again... 98 Toyota Paseo factory immobilizer -- posted image.
I also hope that inserting the key in the driver's key cylinder would give me an answer, even though I've tried to lock the door with the key, leaving the window down, then opened the door from the inside switch and... started the engine. If the arm / disarm wires were connected to the door key cylinder, the engine probably should not have started. However, I'll try this too.
I would also like to thank you for the tip regarding the relay.
Dorian

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