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Posted: February 10, 2005 at 2:58 PM / IP Logged  
Installed a remote starter into a 2004 Grand Marquis. Wrapped a second key for trans. bypass.
Customer says that when car is cold (in morning) rs doesn't work. The techs at Audiovox tell me that there is a problem with some Fords where the key does not work when it's cold.
We tried wrapping with different types of wire, 555U ect. Nothing helps.
Does anyone know a solution to this problem?
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Posted: February 10, 2005 at 3:05 PM / IP Logged  
Use the PKF3. I've used these for the new Taurus' and we live in a climate that is cold most of the time and none of my customer's have had any problems with the vehicle not starting when it's -40 outside ( as long as the car is plugged in of course ).
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I agree with Jeff... the PKF3 is awesome... Have used alot here in Maine..no problems what so ever......
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You could also try powering up the 2nd starter wire see if that helps.
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Posted: February 10, 2005 at 6:34 PM / IP Logged  
2nd starter wire ? Is there something that you know that I don't about this vehicle ??
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Jeff,
NowYaKnow is correct. There are two starter wires on this car. Power up the second starter wire. I got GREEN/ purple on my wire diagram.
Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it.2004 Grand Marquis cold key problem -- posted image.
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Posted: February 10, 2005 at 7:27 PM / IP Logged  
That's why I love this site !!! YOu learn something new every day your on here 2004 Grand Marquis cold key problem -- posted image. 
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Posted: February 11, 2005 at 7:18 AM / IP Logged  
Has anybody verified that doing the other starter wire (which I didn't know about either) will correct this problem?
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There are two starter wire that needs to be power up for this car. The second starter wire is your cold start wire. If you miss this and fail to connect it. There is your problem right there. If you correct this, you eliminate at least one issue with starting the car in the cold. Just a thought.
Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it.2004 Grand Marquis cold key problem -- posted image.
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I'm going to try the pkf3. Thanks
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