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Orange9mm 
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Posted: February 20, 2005 at 2:29 AM / IP Logged  
Hey everyone, I know I'm a newbie so crack the jokes as you may. I recently started a job doing security and one of the major responsibilities is doing lockouts with a slim jim. I've done lockouts before during valet with a simple wedge and a rod, but this completely blows my mind. I got stuck trying to get a chevy lumina in 20 degree weather and it was not pretty. Does anyone know of any sites where I can download a diagram for most of the make and models? My hands and feet will thank you plenty.
swamprat323 
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If you have a lock smith license you can order a book that has ALL the diagrams. but they only will sell it you can prove who you are and that you have do lock smith.
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Posted: February 20, 2005 at 10:47 AM / IP Logged  
What does a job doing security and have to do with slim jiming cars? I would also assume that if your job required this you would also be provided tools and be told that you can't simply use a slim jim to open most new cars because the lock rods are covered. You can buy the info and full jim sets and jiggle keys off of snapon trucks, but again you need to show that you are a lock smith to get it. You provide proof that you are a "lock smith" which you must be to be able to obtain said information that you are asking for and maybe someone will help you. Just so you are aware, in some states IT IS A FELONY to even have a set of jiggle keys in your possesion. Being a newbie and not knowing basics is rather stupid, I mean that you should know what is required to obtain info pertaining to your trade. Ignorance is not a defense.
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Posted: February 20, 2005 at 11:48 AM / IP Logged  
Orange9mm, you better have a chat with your boss, what your being asked to do , is a HUGE liability on HIM, not you. What if you F*ck some dudes car up tryin to bail his stupid ass out, cause he locked his keys in the car. Hes an idiot and gets what he deserves. Tell him to call AAA (triple A). Your boss is gonna get sued over somthin he said you were "required to do "  Doesnt seem rite
Orange9mm 
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Posted: February 20, 2005 at 5:44 PM / IP Logged  

Yea, I took everything into consideration on that. I do mall security and most of the time I'm roving outside; doing jump starts, helping people find their vehicles and whatnot. The ONLY thing they told me to be careful with are cars with airbags in the doors....which we are not allowed to do because I guess some guy in Cali got killed when it went off and shot the jim through his neck. Kinda far-fetched, but it didn't seem like something I'd want to pursue, just less work for me. I admit it seemed pretty stupid to me that they wouldn't have such a manual around. Don't most jims come with a manual anyway?

BTW, the liability is taken care of due to a release form the patron HAS to sign before I even lay a finger on it. It doesn't even state that the person performing the lockout is certified or not. Most places have forms exactly like this, even the casino I did valet at, but we used a wedge so you have to be pretty damn stupid to screw that up.

Anyway, thanks for the info.

swamprat323 
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Ask your Boss to send you to lock smith school if i remember it only a couple weeks longs. Have him pay for it, not you, then you can get all theinfo you want, and on a plus side if the job ever fails, you got something to fall back on, and you did not have to pay for it. FREE STUFF IS GOOD! Slim jim diagrams -- posted image.
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smash and grab buddy. smash and grab.
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Posted: February 22, 2005 at 12:21 AM / IP Logged  
Use a center punch
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sarcasm. just out of some peoples grasp.
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Posted: February 22, 2005 at 3:12 PM / IP Logged  
Most decent "slim jim" (or lock out tools as they are called) sets will also come with a book. This book is updated every year. Try the Snap-On truck or the MAC tools truck.... buy the whole kit, get the book. It isn't too badly priced.
This being said.....
There is no substitute to letting a professional do his/her job. Locksmiths have proper training and insurance. I wouldn't personally want a non-trained person trying to jim their way into any of my vehicles (newer VW's..... a locksmith's worst nightmare). You can do far more damage than you could ever immagine on a newer vehicle digging around with the improper tool/technique. Most locksmiths charge $40-50 for a lockout.... it's cheap.
Gus
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