the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
icon

Lights flicker on and off


Post ReplyPost New Topic
< Prev Topic Next Topic >
bullpar 
Member - Posts: 36
Member spacespace
Joined: October 25, 2006
Location: United States
Posted: November 26, 2006 at 9:23 PM / IP Logged  
Installed 160XV and everything works except when you put the key in the ignition and step on the brake the parking lights and dome lights flicker off and on, you can also hear relays switching.  To get it to turn off you have to hit the unlock button on the remote. I'm clue less on this wierd problem.
master5 
Silver - Posts: 1,123
Silver spacespace
Joined: October 10, 2006
Location: United States
Posted: November 26, 2006 at 9:31 PM / IP Logged  

When asking questions like this it is a good idea to post the vehicle make, model, and year or any other details.

without knowing all that info requires even more "guess work" on our part. But off the top of my head It seems your parking lights are somehow crossed with the domelight circuit..which is quite possible on some vehicles..also seems like you might have not done the ignition bypass correctly..but once again this is all guessing.

But as a starting point please meter your main 12v and ground connections at the brain and make sure they stay @ 12v or greater under all the conditions you listed. If not..you found a possible lead.

post back with the year, make, model and where you tapped the parking lights, door trigger and/or domelight supervision.

bullpar 
Member - Posts: 36
Member spacespace
Joined: October 25, 2006
Location: United States
Posted: November 26, 2006 at 9:36 PM / IP Logged  
My vehical is a 05 sienna.  I downloaded the wireing diagram I got from this website and connected to those wires. The power wires I got from the ignition harness by the steering wheel. I  picked up the door lock and inlock at the drivers kickpanel. and the dome light I got from the switch on the dash by the radio.
bullpar 
Member - Posts: 36
Member spacespace
Joined: October 25, 2006
Location: United States
Posted: November 26, 2006 at 9:43 PM / IP Logged  
I did wire in a relay for the dome lights and connected just like the book tells you to. What I dont understand is why the blinking stops when you push the unlock button on the remote.
master5 
Silver - Posts: 1,123
Silver spacespace
Joined: October 10, 2006
Location: United States
Posted: November 26, 2006 at 9:49 PM / IP Logged  

Ok..compare all your wiring to the following diagram..and double check all you connections (aka verify with a meter). Post back any results..thanks.

12volts  wht/red (30A), wht/blue (7.5A)  +   ignition harness 

Starter  BLACK / YELLOW   +   ignition harness       
Ignition  black   +   ignition harness 
Second Ignition  BLACK / YELLOW   +   ignition harness       
Accessory  pink   +   ignition harness      
Keysense  blue/black   -   ignition harness 
Notes: Using the status output to trigger this wire during remote start will disarm the
 factory alarm without unlocking the doors.
Power Lock  lt. green   -   driver kick, 18 pin plug 
Notes: Meter these wires while turning the key in the driver door key cylinder.
Power Unlock  blue (double pulse)   -   driver kick, 18 pin plug 
Notes: Meter these wires while turning the key in the driver door key cylinder.Can also use the passenger door key cylinder wire for unlock, which only requires a single pulse.
 It is blue / YELLOW (-) in the passenger kick in a 12 pin plug.
Lock Motor  blue/red   5wi  driver kick, 12 pin plug 
Unlock Motor  WHITE/ red to red   5wi  driver kick, 18 pin plug 
Parking Lights+  do not use, relay rests at gnd      
Parking Lights-  GREEN/ black   -   headlight switch 
Hazards  BLACK/ orange   -   hazard switch 
Turn Signal(L)  GREEN/ black   +   R side of fuse box, 30 pin plug 
Turn Signal(R)  GREEN/ YELLOW   +   R side of fuse box, 30 pin plug 
Reverse Light  RED / black   +   driver kick, harness to rear 
Door Trigger  blue   -   interior light switch on dash 
Notes: Can also use individual door trigger wires. The driver door is RED / yellow in the 16 pin plug,
pin 14 at the BECU. The passenger door is RED / yellow in the 28 pin plug, pin 23 at the BECU.
The left sliding door is gray, pin 19, in a 25 pin plug on the right side of the fuse box.
The right sliding door is RED / white in the 16 pin plug, pin 16 at the BECU. The hatch door is
 GREEN / WHITE in the 28 pin plug, pin 25 at the BECU. Use all wires and diode isolate each.

The BECU (Body ECU) is attached to the back of the fuse box under the driver side dash.

Dome Supervision  RED / green   -   interior light switch on dash 
Trunk/Hatch Pin  common with door trigger wire       
Hood Pin  RED / white   -   BECU, 10 pin plug, pin 10 
Notes: The BECU (Body ECU) is attached to the back of the fuse box under the driver side dash.
Trunk/Hatch Release  yellow/red (power back door)   -   bottom L of fuse box, 22 pin plug 
Notes: On vehicles without the power back door, the hatch release is GREEN/ black (-) at the BECU,
28 pin plug, pin 3. Meter this wire while open the hatch from the handle on the rear hatch.

The hatch release motor wire is blue/black (+) at the BECU, 26 pin plug, pin 1.

The BECU (Body ECU) is attached to the back of the fuse box under the driver side dash.

Power Sliding Door  YELLOW /GREEN (L), purple (R)   -   bottom L of fuse box, 22 pin plug 
Factory Alarm Arm  arms with lock       
Factory Alarm Disarm  disarms with unlock       
Disarm No Unlock  use key sense wire       
Tachometer  BLACK/ orange   ac   ECM, top plug, pin 5 
Notes: The ECM (Engine Control Module) is behind the glove box.
Wait to start  N/A       
Brake Wire  GREEN / WHITE   +   brake pedal switch 
Parking Brake  RED / white   -   R side of fuse box, 36 pin plug 
Horn Trigger  GREEN/ black   -   horn switch  
     
 Interface Module: Category:
Immobilizer Bypass  Required:
Yes Type:
Transponder
Part #: 1100X
Alternate Part1 #: DesignTech 29402
Alternate Part2 #: 556UW
Alternate Part3 #: DesignTech 20402
Notes: Standard on LE, XLE, and XLE Limited models.
 Smart Starter Kill Relays: Relay Type:
EFI Relay Location:
Engine compartment fusebox, Driver side
Part #: 6413A

This wiring information is being provided free of charge on an "as is" basis, without any representation or warranty.

It is your responsibility to verify any circuit before interfacing with it using a digital multimeter.

master5 
Silver - Posts: 1,123
Silver spacespace
Joined: October 10, 2006
Location: United States
Posted: November 26, 2006 at 9:55 PM / IP Logged  
It may be normal for the parking lights to flicker when you step on the brake..it might be a shutdown notification..but the domelight is not normal..if you did domelight supervision relay...disconncet it and see if the problem still happens..maybe you made an error there. As far as unlock turning it off..it depends also what's turning it on..it's not normal so you need to find the mistake a fix it..not really worry about symtoms.
bullpar 
Member - Posts: 36
Member spacespace
Joined: October 25, 2006
Location: United States
Posted: November 26, 2006 at 10:05 PM / IP Logged  

Ok I went to the car. it started ok and when I put my key in everything was good. So I then tried to start the car with my key and everything started to blink.  The wires I connected to are:

12volts  wht/red (30A), wht/blue (7.5A)  +   ignition harness               

Starter  BLACK / YELLOW   +   ignition harness               

Ignition  black   +   ignition harness 
Second Ignition  BLACK / YELLOW   +   ignition harness       
Accessory  pink   +   ignition harness      
Keysense  blue/black   -   ignition harness 

Power Lock  lt. green   -   driver kick, 18 pin plug 

Tachometer  BLACK/ orange   ac   ECM, top plug, pin 5 

Brake Wire  GREEN / WHITE   +   brake pedal switch 

Power Unlock  blue (double pulse)   -   driver kick, 18 pin plug 

Parking Lights-  GREEN/ black   -   headlight switch 

Dome Supervision  RED / green   -   interior light switch on dash 

I set the Programming to constant lights on for the parking light and the door to bouble pulse.

master5 
Silver - Posts: 1,123
Silver spacespace
Joined: October 10, 2006
Location: United States
Posted: November 27, 2006 at 1:32 AM / IP Logged  

Well what you need to do first is determine if it is something you did wrong...or if it is a defect in the product either caused by something you did wrong..or it is just defective.

Now to track down what is happening we need to take a logical approach. Ok, this happens when you try to start. Well when you start the car what happens is the ignition circuits get powered up...then when you go to the "crank" or start position...starter wire gets power....ignitions hold power...but  the accessory wires lose power.

Now if all else is wired correctly..the only thing the RS brain will detect is something on the ignition wire(s) during key on and crank.....and accessory wire losing power during start.

So common sense and basic troubleshooting logic tells us to check those first. It seems to me you might have the constant wire of the RS on an ignition or accessory wire by mistake..but do what I say and you will know for sure.

Take your meter and make sure all those wires are doing what they are supposed to..and connected properly. Make sure all the harnesses...especially the ribbon cable to relay module are all plugged in solidly..I have seen those come lose before and cause strange problems.

What I would do first is take the meter and check if the wire you hooked to constant stays constant at all times..measure it with the key off...ignition/run and start.  If thats good go to measure any ignition wires you hooked up...make sure they show 12v with key on AND start..but no voltage with key off.  If nothing yet go the any accy you connect...make sure it has 12v when key in acc and ignition position...but 0 volts when key off AND in start position.

And this is IMPORTANT.  You must take the measurments at the RS harnesses...not at the vehicles ignition harness in case you are actually on the correct wires..but simply have a poor connection.

If you can't find anything wrong disconnect them one at a time until the problem stops. Once it stops you know whats causing it.

Trust me on this..I have excellent troubleshooting skills, my cell phone is busier then any "tech line" from manufacturers for these kind of problems..If you do what I say carefully..you will have it figured out in no time flat.

In the worst case something happened to mess up something in the car so we need to determine if it is your wiring or a defect with the RS unit before any other steps can be taken.

master5 
Silver - Posts: 1,123
Silver spacespace
Joined: October 10, 2006
Location: United States
Posted: November 27, 2006 at 1:38 AM / IP Logged  

Also remember to check the brains main constant..that is the smaller red wire on the long main harness that plugs into the RS brain. If that wire is losing 12v when you turn the key to run or start..it will cause problems.

And it can't hurt to double and triple check the ground...check it at the same main harness (the thin black wire) and make sure it holds at least 12v with key off...key on..and start.  You MUST use a meter to do this or you will be head scratching forever. Do as I say and you will be back in business soon.

bullpar 
Member - Posts: 36
Member spacespace
Joined: October 25, 2006
Location: United States
Posted: November 27, 2006 at 6:18 AM / IP Logged  
Thank you for your help, My next day off I will go thru the system with my Fluke.  Electrical systems can get wierd, I do avionics for a living  so I know electronics very well. I'm jst very new to car eletrical, very different from a plane.
Page of 3

  Printable version Printable version Post ReplyPost New Topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

  •  
Search the12volt.com
Follow the12volt.com Follow the12volt.com on Facebook
Monday, April 29, 2024 • Copyright © 1999-2024 the12volt.com, All Rights Reserved Privacy Policy & Use of Cookies
Disclaimer: *All information on this site ( the12volt.com ) is provided "as is" without any warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including but not limited to fitness for a particular use. Any user assumes the entire risk as to the accuracy and use of this information. Please verify all wire colors and diagrams before applying any information.

Secured by Sectigo
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
Support the12volt.com
Top
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer