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negreac 
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Posted: March 07, 2007 at 9:52 PM / IP Logged  
Ok so I have a jeep wrangler which some of you might know does not have an existing power lock system. What I'm attempting to do is install power locks on the 2 doors and tailgate. I would like to also have driver's priority unlock, I'm installing a compustar 2wssr-as (CM3000). I've figured out how to wire this system with 2 double throw relays and 3 2 wire actuators and a switch, but I'd liek to know how it can be done without the switch. Many aftermarket kits use the existing lock lever as teh switch, aka you move the lock manually and teh rest of teh car will follow. First, is this even possible with teh features I want? Second how in teh hell do these systems/actuators operate? The compustar has an unlock and lock out put as well as a seperate DS priority output, all are negative outputs. Any info is appreciated, thanks.
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Don't the doors POP off of this rig?

negreac 
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Yeah, there's two nuts that hold them on. I'm just going to hook up a quick disconnect for the wiring. Thought about doing contact switches but I still want control of my locks and windows when the doors are open. I'm installing a comustar 2WSSR-AS, SPAL Power windows (Deluxe Universal), DEI window module (530t), and some kind of power lock/trunk system, which I may have to put together myself. I'd rather not add another switch and just have the existing mechanical lock buttons control the power locks, not sure if this can be done with the alarm and drivers priority though. I believe the systems that do this use 5 wire actuators, not sure how they work though.
negreac 
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Here's a pic of the system I'm talking about and a link to the info on it.
how to setup 3 way aftermarket locks? -- posted image.[
Here's a link to the install instructions as well:
http://www.slickcar.com/manuals/power_lock_install.htm
negreac 
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If I use to use this particular system I would have to add another actuator for the tailgate of course.
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Posted: March 08, 2007 at 9:14 AM / IP Logged  
Check to see if the realy pack you have that came with the lock setup, will allow you to set up them up for drivers priority. From the alarm you would use the regular unlock for the drivers door, then the second unlock for the remainder of the doors.
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You can wire the door lock actuators up as instructed- there should be a doorlock module that controls the locking- it should have negative inputs for lock and unlock that get fed from your R/S-- then you can wire in your own relays on the output wire side of the module for your driver priority set-up- then triger that with the driver priority wire that your R/s has.  This way it would mimic exactly what a vehicle does if it originally had electric locks.....
Brcidd - Engineer That Does Remote Starter Installs on the side.
negreac 
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I'm not so sure that the harness for the RH and LH side locks are isolated for one another, meaning if I triggered the LH side I would also trigger the RH side. I might be able to use a diode to control this(I'm not sure if I can use a diode in this case, I've never used them so i don't know what there limitations are, also I'm not sure if polarity is reversed on the wire for unlocking/locking in which case it wouldn't work), or possibly a second relay to seperate the two circuits when I use the drivers priority. Still no one has explained how these actuators are working to tell teh other actuators to follow. A wiring diadram of this setup would be extremely useful.
negreac 
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Ok well here's a extremely crude diagram of how I believe the aftermarket door locks work. I don't know for sure that the two actuators are on the same circuit but I would assume so. I also have no idea what the gray wires do, or how they operate. Anyone know if this is right, wrong, and what the mystery gray wires are and teh mystery box has in it?
how to setup 3 way aftermarket locks? -- posted image.
brcidd 
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Two wires activate the actuators- the other three are used to feed the internal flip flop relays in the "mystery" box- which feed current one direction for lock and the other direction for unlock.  the other three wires are triggered off of a switch built into each actuator that activates at the end of each actuator's stroke.  Think of it as if the three wires were wired to a switch- completely seperate from the actuator- the only difference here is that the switch is integrated into the actuator for convenience---If I were you, and in doubt- I would lay it all out on a table first- then apply 12volts to the battery hot input and ground the ground wire-- now I would meter all wires as I triggered them- both with the actuator built-in switch and the (-) inputs- very simple, very fun to do- then once I knew which two wires were for driving the driver's door actuator back and forth- I would design a relay to enable the driver's door and NOT the passenger doors-  But I don't like driver's door priority- find it a PITA when trying to load/unload a car.......
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