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jchen01 
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hi everyone,
I bought a remote starter on ebay called NITRO BMW-2 way remote starter. It's a crappy made product. The chinese company who made this couldn't even correct all the grammar mistakes in the user's manual. So it's kind of confusing. But I ALMOST figured what they are trying to see. There is only one problem which is:
how can I find the alternator wire ?
The remote starter obviously need to hook up with the alternator to know the car has been started. But I tried many diagram, they give me a white wire which is also the battery wire. It failed of course. So Can anyone tell me how can I find the right alternator wire?
Thanks!
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a blue wire at the distributor = tach wire.

what's this white battery wire you're talking about -- is this off the alarm/remote starter brain?

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Thanks for your quick reply!
Why does it connect to the distributor? Isn't it supposed to connect with alternator?
The white wire is from the car. It's a constant +12 V wire that supports things like cigarette lighter or clock or something.
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a blue wire at the distributor = tach wire.

what's this white battery wire you're talking about -- is this off the alarm/remote starter brain?

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Well, if they want you to do tach/alternator sensing, then the wire from the alarm/remote starter brain needs to be connected to an a/c wire, like distributor wire or alternator wire.

If they want you to do voltage sensing, then that is perhaps why they suggested you tie into the white 12 volt wire.

Make sure you know which mode the r/s is in before you tie in any wire.  Test all wires with a voltmeter

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After some investigations, looks like the green wire (alternator wire) off the nitro brain needs to be connected to a 12 volt constant supply to do VOLTAGE SENSING. 
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remember, you still probably have to "learn" the voltage sensing to the brain -- usually this requires you to start the car (once all the wires have been connected) with the key and the brain will flash the park lights and/or honk the horn a few times to indicate successful setup of voltage sensing.  Then you can attempt a remote start after this.
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Thanks peterubers~
But it has a wire connecting with 12 V . So I don't know what to do. I am gonna type all the wires here(there are some confusing english on the manual)
green wire: Air condition wire / connect keyhole ON wire
red: connect power supply power (12v)
gray: connect START engine wire
black: ground
White wire: direction indicator (I think they mean signal lights)
white wire: direction indicator (I think they mean signal lights)
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second part
white: speaker
brown wire: trunk
yellow: relay connecting wire( they provide a relay)
blue: door trigger signal -
orange: door trigger signal +
purple: foot brake
gray: hand brake
green wire: alternator ( when successfully starting, positive, power is output)
***this green wire is the one confusing me***
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I decide to ignore all those trunk and door and hand brake thing. So it would be easier to do so. But the alternator part, is really killing me.
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Here is my translation:

Green wire: accessory/ignition wires --> I would connect this one to civic ignition wire (BLACK / YELLOW) and the other wire connect to civic BLACK / YELLOW wire

Red: 12 volts constant --> civic WHITE/ black wire

Gray: starter wire --> civic BLACK/ white wire

black: chassis ground

white wire: parking light output --> since there are TWO white wires, I can only assume one wire is + (pos) output, and one is - (neg) output --> volt test each one prior to attaching to the civic.  The civic is a RED / GREEN(-) wire at the steering column harness.

Green alternator wire: connect to civic WHITE/ black wire (same as above) -- will detect voltage sensing through this wire.

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