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2008 Honda Civic Si Sedan Alarm/Remote Start


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e10tran 
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Posted: February 06, 2010 at 6:04 PM / IP Logged  
One last question, since this is a sedan (4door), what is the best way to wire the door triggers? Using the manual from the viper 5701 below:
Primary harness (H1), 12-pin connector
H1/1 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT
H1/2 RED (+)12v CONSTANT INPUT
H1/3 BROWN (+) SIREN OUTPUT
H1/4 WHITE/
BROWN
LIGHT FLASH -ISOLATION WIRE - PIN 87a of
onboard relay
H1/5 BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND
H1/6 VIOLET (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT
H1/7 BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN/ INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT
H1/8 GREEN (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT
H1/9 BLACK/ WHITE (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT OUTPUT
H1/10 WHITE/ BLUE (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION
INPUT
H1/11 WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT
H1/12 ORANGE (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT
Do I wire all of the following to H1/8 GREEN (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT with a diode isolation?
08 Honda Civic Trigger Colors:
LF Latch GREEN (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
RF Latch LIGHT GREEN (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
LR Latch BROWN (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
RR Latch GRAY (-) UNDER DASH FUSEBOX
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Posted: February 06, 2010 at 6:55 PM / IP Logged  

Yes, attach door pins to to the Vipers (-) door trigger input.

All four door pins can be found in the Green 42 pin

connector at the top of the fuse box.

The DRIVERS DOOR is a GREEN (-) at Pin 37,

the PASSENGER DOOR is a LIGHT GREEN (-) at Pin 3,
the DRIVERS REAR DOOR is a BROWN (-) at Pin 17 and
the PASSENGER REAR DOOR is a GRAY (-) at Pin 2.
When connecting to an ALARM SYSTEM use all 4 wires
and DIODE ISOLATE.

Soldering is fun!
e10tran 
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Posted: February 06, 2010 at 7:34 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks kreg for the fast reply. I think I feel about 99% comfortable with this installation now. Only thing left is the clutch bypass with relay to the correct wire on the 5701.
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Posted: February 06, 2010 at 8:03 PM / IP Logged  

Clutch bypass should be pretty straight forward.  I used a Compustar 5200-s remote start.  It has a (-) Start output  rated at 250ma.  I went directly to the orange wire in the yellow plug at the clutch pedal.  I also attached the R/S's heavy gauge (+) Start output to the heavy gauge yellow wire (+) Start at the ignition switch, although I heard it wasn't necessary.  No problems, the car is working fine but adding a relay to the (-) Start as Ted suggests won't hurt a thing.  Especially since your units (-) Start output is rated at 200ma.

Did you find the hand brake wire?  It's in a White plug on the right side of the steering column.  It is a very light blue color.

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e10tran 
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Posted: February 06, 2010 at 8:47 PM / IP Logged  
Kreg,
So basically using Ted's relay setup I can wire as following:
85 - (-) start output (violet on 5701), which is a 200mA (-) start outp
86 - constant 12v
87 - ground
30 - to clutch orange wire.
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Posted: February 06, 2010 at 9:21 PM / IP Logged  

Yes, that will work nicely.  Don't forget that in manual transmission mode, you must be in Tach mode and connect the R/S to a tach signal.

Also, as Ted pointed out, there is a procedure to put the car into Reservation mode to enable a remote start.  This Reservation mode ensures that the car was left in neutral with the doors locked.  If any door/trunk is opened afterward the reservation mode is cancelled and the car won't attempt a remote start.

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e10tran 
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Posted: February 09, 2010 at 1:21 AM / IP Logged  
Thanks kreg, that completes all the info that I need. I will start it this weekend, wish me luck! lol
e10tran 
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Posted: February 09, 2010 at 6:00 PM / IP Logged  
Sorry forgot to ask, is this car a 5 wi type unlock/lock?.....Do I need to use the 2 relay setup (5wire)?
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the car has negative door lock triggers.

you will only need one relay if you wish to have Driver door priority access. (unlock driver door first, then the rest of the doors) 

Ted
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e10tran 
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If I wire straight then all doors will unlock with 1 push of the "unlock" button? Thanks.
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