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evanc 
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Posted: September 26, 2004 at 10:35 PM / IP Logged  
I am looking for a new head unit. As of now, I have settled for a price range no more than $450ish (online prices are okay). I have checked out Alpine's CDA-7998 and their 9835, as well as Pioneer's 960MP and 860MP.
I have owned Pioneer and Alpine HU's before, and like/dislike each for their own particular reasons. I more or less am looking for others who own these, or similar units in price range, and can offer their opinions.
Thanks
Evan
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i luv my Alpine 9835. Complicated controls though. Be warned, there is no simple bass/treble control. It is all EQ based.
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Posted: September 27, 2004 at 5:04 PM / IP Logged  
This post was just screaming for the obligatory "Get an Eclipse" comment from me. Much like Steven when he smells the words Adire or Brahma mentioned. This is one line of cd players that you should definitely consider.
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evanc 
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Posted: September 27, 2004 at 11:58 PM / IP Logged  
At one point I was actually pretty determined to get Eclipse's 8454, but when compared with the prices and features of Pioneers 906MP, I couldnt justify that purchase. The features that the Pioneer has far surpass what the Eclipse can give you for the same price, and the sound quality difference has always been minimal in my listening situations (which I will say may not have been fair).
I am open to arguments though. I am by no means wealthy, and dropping this kind of cash on anything, especially a CD player, I'd like to have all the opinions and arguments that I can get.
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Posted: September 28, 2004 at 12:05 AM / IP Logged  
I like Pionner for the fact that I don't get very many back from customer's due to manufacturer defects. Between the two you have to choose from, if you can afford the Eclipse, do it, but if not the Pioneer is a great unit as well.
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What options in parlicular are you looking for in a head unit?
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evanc wrote:
The features that the Pioneer has far surpass what the Eclipse can give you for the same price, and the sound quality difference has always been minimal in my listening situations.

What features are these?  The 8454 is a pretty full featured head unit by my book.

I give two big thumbs up for Eclipse.  I've never owned a Pioneer, but my Eclipse beats the heck out of the similarly priced Clarions and Panasonic decks I have owned. 

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Tcole 
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The Pioneer would be my choice. A bit of learning curve with all the settings.
evanc 
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Posted: September 28, 2004 at 10:19 AM / IP Logged  
Well, here are some of my problems with the Eclipse.
1) I don't like their rotary knob for track selection.
2) They are not compatible with the Neo Jukebox directly.
3) Lack a detachable face (I know about their security CD, but what good is that going to do if they already stole it after Eclipses 1 year warranty?
4) Layout of the controls is not as convienet as other units
5) To use its capabilities, you more or less need a memory stick and reader, which tacks on even more money.
I won't say it isnt a good unit, but a Pioneer, for less money, has those features, and some more. I do like its 8 volt pre-outs, as well as the "Eclipse clarity", but I just cant justify losing all that for what I could get with a simple line driver and using the money I save for nicer amps. The Pioneer, while not having the 8 volt pre-outs, still has high voltages. It comes with a microphone to adjust the sound, while not having to use a memory stick. It is XM ready (I am not entirely sure whether the Eclipse is or not), it has much easier controls and a much nicer display, and has an adapter for RCA level inputs without having to go down to a mini-jack (as in the Eclipse).
I may very well be wrong on some of these statements. I am by no means an expert, and I have never personally owned an Eclipse. If I am wrong about these, please let me know. If there are features of the Eclipse that I am not aware of, please let me know. I would prefer to have the Eclipse, but I just cannot justify losing to much to gain so little.
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Posted: September 28, 2004 at 10:54 AM / IP Logged  

Well I currently own both an Eclipse 5442 and a Pioneer 9200R.

The Pioneer blows the Eclipse away. As a matter of fact I put a Pioneer 6400 in my wifes car and I think that is nicer than the Eclipse.

The features are way better on the Pioneer and with the Eclipse it always makes this stupid scraping noise with cds playing.

Yes I know the Pioneer is a higher end model, but its older and Eclipse is "supposed" to be of higher standard. (Right)

If youre considering a Pioneer youve already made the right choice in my book. Eclipse units are not worth the money.

BTW, why is it that people are saying Eclipse is such a great unit anyways? There far behind in the features department.

Just my 2cents.

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