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Calgarysouth 
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Posted: May 03, 2005 at 7:54 PM / IP Logged  

From reading all the posts around here, it seems like a lot of people are trying to hodge widge an auto starter into their manual.

am i the only one who thinks this is wrong, unsafe, immoral and just plain stupid?

also, forgive me for being honest, but if you have to ask how to hook up a relay for a specific purpose, maybe you shouldn't be attempting to put in an alarm starter combo into your vehicle.  god forbid something goes wrong and you turn on a bonus light or something in your car doesn't work properly, or you really screw something up and it won't even start anymore. 

Chances are you are going to get it towed to a dealership.  They are going to charge you out the A$$ to fix it, and pull out your starter in the process.

Or, if you are smart, you are going to take it your local install shop to have them fix it.  Either way, you are going to pay someone the same money that  you could have paid someone QUALIFIED to put the thing in in the first place.

We are install professionals, with the proper tools, training and resources to do the job correctly the first time. 

And don't forget:

Average Alarm/Starter install price: $350

Average price to replace a BCM:$1500

You do the math

Calgarysouth 
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Posted: May 03, 2005 at 8:06 PM / IP Logged  

Just to add on,

I am not saying that you shouldn't be putting the stuff in yourself,

but seriously, if you can't understand how a starter works, and why it does what it does, the putting it in and thinking that by some sort of magic your car will start..........

i dunno, just not a good idea in my books

Calgarysouth 
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Posted: May 03, 2005 at 8:08 PM / IP Logged  

thank you...i just think it's ridiculous...

so many people spend so much time answering questions to things that should NOT be asked by someone putting in a starter into their vehicle......

no wonder so many people think that starters will ruin their car. 

Calgarysouth 
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Posted: May 04, 2005 at 8:23 AM / IP Logged  
and why is it that it's easier nowadays for someone to post a question on a forum like this, than it is to pick up the freakin install manual and read it for themselves?
aaronU 
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Compustar doesn't ship an install manual
daniel2002p 
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amen to that calgarysouth you have a good point, hell a very good point.

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Calgarysouth 
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i have put in countless compustars and everyone that i have done had an install manual....

where are you getting them from???

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Posted: May 04, 2005 at 1:21 PM / IP Logged  

My post on a simular topic

Calgarysouth....If you reads the entire post, I tried to tell this guy NOT to use this unit for a 5 speed.....if the fool wants to drive his car thru a wall, of over some kid.....so be it......HE WAS WARNED......

I see this same question asked a hundered times a week.....people are stupid....they dont listen to the PRO'S... they just want it done.Some one sells them a cool remote start and here we are with all the answers......

Sorry if I sound out of line......but guys like Mr. 98mustangdroptop5speed, shouldnt get any answeres from people like us, these are the guys that make it hard for reputable dealers like myself to earn a living....he should have been told it wouldn't  work and left it at that......Auto Starters in Manual Trans -- posted image.

topless98gt 
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The funny thing is is that I had a professional install my alarm/remote start. He hooked everything up except for the PATS module and the clutch bypass. This is the reason I ask my questions. I didn't dare to try to install that thing myself...I knew I couldn't, so I let a professional do it for $100. Now...hopefully you aren't targetting me in the original post. I am not trying to be mean, it's just that I let the pro do what he had to do and now I am going to finish up and do the rest, which includes safety switchs under the shift boot so that it does not start in gear.
extreme1 
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People are dumb dumb dumb, and it's not just DYI people, I have customers that want me to "bypass" the ready mode on their starters because it's inconvenient if they want to get something out of their vehicle... dumb...
ps, Calgary South sucks Auto Starters in Manual Trans -- posted image.
Shaughn Murley
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Red Deer, Alberta
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