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08 tacoma, remote starter, immobilizer


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tedmond 
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Posted: December 08, 2007 at 2:14 PM / IP Logged  
you should be able to program ur module to accecpt 2 pulses. There are many units that will send out 1-3 pulses by changing settings. This unit should be able to be programmed for 2 pulses. I have only had to use a relay because the factory key fob only sends one pulse to lock ALL doors. So i added the relay so when the door was locked once, the relay would send out a double pulse to allow start.
westpoint 
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Posted: December 08, 2007 at 9:33 PM / IP Logged  

Hmmm..   I want to start with 3 lock pushes on the factory fob.  I don't understand why you mention the need for 2 pulses.

Has anyone out there who has done a Tacoma run into problems with the purple door lock wire?

Like I say, if I ground the (-) WHITE/ blue activation wire 3 times myself, the RS starts the truck up.   Also, if I use the key in the door to lock 3 times, the RS works also since my multimeter reads the purple going down to 0V.  However, if I use the factory fob my multimeter shows only a brief drop of a few volts and the RS doesn't start up the truck.   

Anyone?

techman93 
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I would try with a relay. It will be much more solid of a ground then from door lock trigger.
The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
Do it right the first time... or I might have to fix it for ya
tedmond 
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Posted: December 09, 2007 at 7:03 AM / IP Logged  

alright, do what techman said. use a relay, but no need for the capacitor because u dont need a double pulse. wire like so

Relay terminal

85 - Constant 12v fused @ 5 amps

86 - Splice into your door lock wire and run a wire to this terminal
87 - High Current/durable GROUND
30 - To (-) activatiojn wire on 561t.

Chris Luongo 
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Posted: December 09, 2007 at 8:48 AM / IP Logged  
Doesn't that unit offer a programming option, where you can choose a positive or negative input?
If you're using the car's doorlock motor, you should program the unit to be looking for a positive pulse.
I also vote that this isn't a good idea. You save just a couple of dollars on the product, no difference in install time, and you end up with poor range, and no keyless when remote started.
westpoint 
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Posted: December 09, 2007 at 12:12 PM / IP Logged  

Thanks for the advice fellas.

I'll try the relay this afternoon on the negative door lock purple wire using the 561T WHITE/ blue activation wire.  If that fails, I'll try the positive door lock motor wire using the 561T WHITE/ red activation wire. 

Yeah, I agree.  I should have spent more money on a system with a remote for the range and the unlocking :(

I'll have it all figured out by the time our first big cold spell goes away up here in Alberta.

westpoint 
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Posted: December 10, 2007 at 7:53 PM / IP Logged  

My valet 561T install was progressing nicely except for a problem with getting factory fob lock to activate RS.

To test the 561T I was grounding the WHITE/ blue negative activation wire.  The truck would start up no problem.  Tested shutdowns, changed some features, started it several times.  End of day, left it that way.

Now a few days later (didn't drive truck in-between) the RS won't work at all.  I don't hear any clicking at all from the relays inside when I ground the activation wire to start.  Tried positive pulses to WHITE/ red activation wire but nothing either.

The neutral switch is grounded when on and BLACK/ white tests ok, not using hood pin so thats left open, power to 2 reds ok, black ground ok, brake press gives high.

I can enter programming mode and see the LED's flash the feature number.   I have never been able to get into diagnostic mode.  This is even when RS was working fine and I'd test shutdown eg. with brake  (ign off, hold program, ign on then off, release program, press and release program again).

 I am using a seperate relay for the second starter wire.  No diode across coil.  Think that could be a factor?

Opened it up and nothing looks unusual and I use to do failure analysis at IBM.    No tools to debug now (other than a fluke) nor the time.

What do you think?     Without the relays clicking what can a guy do?

 Thanks in advance for your time!

westpoint 
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Posted: December 12, 2007 at 8:31 PM / IP Logged  

Anyone?  Any chance I've inadvertently changed a programming feature or something??

westpoint 
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Posted: December 12, 2007 at 10:25 PM / IP Logged  

Oh well, I've given up until I get another 561 :(

westpoint 
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Posted: January 07, 2008 at 6:44 PM / IP Logged  

Happy New Year everyone.

Just to close out the topic... here is an update.

Got a new "brain" but instead of a 561T replacement I put in a 561R for the reasons everybody mentioned (range of RS, power locks). 

Of course the 561T and 561R are the same less the remote so it plugged right into my existing wiring work.

Started first time :)

So,  I definitely ruined the 561T brain somehow when I was trying to get it to start using factory fob / door lock wire and playing around with blue (-) and red (+) activation wires.

Thanks to those who helped me out!  Next project is the same 561R into a 2005 CR-V.  Don't worry, I'll search for the wiring diagram before starting a new thread to ask what has probably already been asked before.

Cheers!

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