the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
icon

xk01 disarm with lock cylinder turn gm


Post ReplyPost New Topic
< Prev Topic Next Topic >
advhome01 
Member - Posts: 16
Member spacespace
Joined: January 15, 2009
Location: Florida, United States
Posted: January 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM / IP Logged  

If someone uses a screwdriver to unlock the door, it disarms the alarm.

2005 Suburban, Viper 5901 with XK01 module.

Is there a way to program this alarm or module so that the system doesn't disarm if a key or screwdriver is used to unlock the door?

The XK01 is needed to have the remote start function.  Can the doorlocks be wired up manually if using an XK01?  It seems like it will still know that the door has been unlocked and turn off the alarm via the data wire, unless there is some way to program it to forget about the door locks.

Thanks for any ideas.

advanced 
Copper - Posts: 207
Copper spacespace
Joined: January 13, 2003
Location: Massachusetts, United States
Posted: January 15, 2009 at 12:11 PM / IP Logged  

That Viper is an alarm & remote start. The door locks will not affect your new alarm system. It is independent.

If you use your Viper alarm/remote start  & XK01 to arm factory alarm & disarm the factory alarm, & you also want to keep the factory alarm working, then you can disconnect the arm & disarm wires @ the door lock cylinders, inside the 2 front doors. 

It's going to be some work, but it will prevent anyone from using a key or screwdriver to disarm the factory alarm. The only way to arm & disarm afterwards is with your remote transmitters.

Good Enough Isn't!
advhome01 
Member - Posts: 16
Member spacespace
Joined: January 15, 2009
Location: Florida, United States
Posted: January 15, 2009 at 12:22 PM / IP Logged  

The way the system is setup now with the xk01, it disarms the viper when the doorlock cylinder is turned.  Are you saying I can use the xk01 without it interfacing with the factory alarm?

_________

So what are the arm and disarm wires at the door locks?

Are they the same wires that get the lock & unlock pulses or is it something seperate used just for communication purposes?  Can I just get in there and cut them and be done with it, or will I then need to hard wire the alarm to lock and unlock the doors independant of the xk01?

Thanks for your help.

kgerry 
Platinum - Posts: 3,455
Platinum spaceThis member consistently provides reliable informationspace
Joined: February 07, 2004
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
Posted: January 15, 2009 at 5:22 PM / IP Logged  
i would suspect you have something wired wrong.... turning the key should NEVER disarm the alarm.......
Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
myinstallguy 
Member - Posts: 28
Member spacespace
Joined: January 08, 2009
Location: Arizona, United States
Posted: January 15, 2009 at 8:46 PM / IP Logged  

The XK01 will control door lock & unlock as well as arm and disarm the factory security.

Unlocking the drivers door with the vehicles key will only disarm the "factory" system. The Viper will remain armed till you press the unlock button on the transmitters that were supplied with the Viper system.  

*Installer since '89*
advhome01 
Member - Posts: 16
Member spacespace
Joined: January 15, 2009
Location: Florida, United States
Posted: January 16, 2009 at 4:33 AM / IP Logged  

Well, I'm not imagining it.

If you turn the door lock cylinder and the alarm chirps twice to disarm.  You can then open the door, sit inside and start the truck without it setting off the alarm.  

Otherwise if you so much as stick your arm inside the open window the motion sensor sets off the alarm.

And Kevin; as far as having something wired wrong; It's kind of hard to connect the XK01 to the data wire wrong.  It controls the locks and turns off the factory starter kill just fine.  I wish it were wired wrong.

myinstallguy 
Member - Posts: 28
Member spacespace
Joined: January 08, 2009
Location: Arizona, United States
Posted: January 16, 2009 at 8:11 AM / IP Logged  

I'm not 100% familar with the 5901. Does it have any manual arm/disarm inputs some one might have wired to the door lock motor wires (the tan & grey) inside of the drivers door?

Is there anything attached to the "light green" (factory disarm wire) in the drivers door. This wire is very easy to get to. It is in one of the plugs on the Window/Lock switch. It will show a neg pulse when the drivers key cylinder turns to the unlock position.

You definatly have an interesting problem. I've used a lot of XK01's and have never seen one disarm an aftermarket alarm via manual unlock (i've experianced quite a few not work @ all).

Disconnect the data input wire to the XK01. Arm the Viper, and see if your key still disarms the Viper by manual unlocking.  It's a quick test to start the thought process.   

*Installer since '89*
advhome01 
Member - Posts: 16
Member spacespace
Joined: January 15, 2009
Location: Florida, United States
Posted: January 16, 2009 at 8:30 AM / IP Logged  

There is nothing connected to anything related to the factory door locks.  I just installed it day before yesterday.  It is all done through the XK01.  With the data wire disconnected it does not disarm when unlocking the door manually with a key like it does when connected.

I don't see anything in the 5901 programming that I can turn off that would keep it from disarming when the factory alarm disarms.

kgerry 
Platinum - Posts: 3,455
Platinum spaceThis member consistently provides reliable informationspace
Joined: February 07, 2004
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
Posted: January 16, 2009 at 8:56 AM / IP Logged  

do you have your 5901 arm and disarm wires connected to the XK01?  or only the lock & unlock?   are you using the XK01 D2D? or did you hard wire it W2W?

the problem i see is that the Viper units don't have an external disarm input....short of the valet push switch

i'm just trying to help pal......

Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
advhome01 
Member - Posts: 16
Member spacespace
Joined: January 15, 2009
Location: Florida, United States
Posted: January 16, 2009 at 9:24 AM / IP Logged  

Kevin,

Sorry, didn't mean to be rude.

The XK01 is only wired D2D.

Page of 3

  Printable version Printable version Post ReplyPost New Topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

  •  
Search the12volt.com
Follow the12volt.com Follow the12volt.com on Facebook
Friday, March 29, 2024 • Copyright © 1999-2024 the12volt.com, All Rights Reserved Privacy Policy & Use of Cookies
Disclaimer: *All information on this site ( the12volt.com ) is provided "as is" without any warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including but not limited to fitness for a particular use. Any user assumes the entire risk as to the accuracy and use of this information. Please verify all wire colors and diagrams before applying any information.

Secured by Sectigo
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
Support the12volt.com
Top
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer